Hobby Lobby May Close All 500+ Stores in 41 States

Hobby Lobby May Close All 500+ Stores in 41 States

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Via: Tom O Halloran
By: David Green, the founder and CEO of Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.

When my family and I started our company 40 years ago, we were working out of a garage on a $600 bank loan, assembling miniature picture frames. Our first retail store wasn’t much bigger than most people’s living rooms, but we had faith that we would succeed if we lived and worked according to God’s word.

From there, Hobby Lobby has become one of the nation’s largest arts and crafts retailers, with more than 500 locations in 41 states. Our children grew up into fine business leaders, and today we run Hobby Lobby together, as a family.

We’re Christians, and we run our business on Christian principles. I’ve always said that the first two goals of our business are (1) to run our business in harmony with God’s laws, and (2) to focus on people more than money. And that’s what we’ve tried to do.

We close early so our employees can see their families at night. We keep our stores closed on Sundays, one of the week’s biggest shopping days, so that our workers and their families can enjoy a day of rest.

We believe that it is by God’s grace that Hobby Lobby has endured, and he has blessed us and our employees. We’ve not only added jobs in a weak economy, we’ve raised wages for the past four years in a row. Our full-time employees start at 80% above minimum wage.

But now, our government threatens to change all of that.

A new government healthcare mandate says that our family business MUST provide what I believe are abortion-causing drugs as part of our health insurance.

Being Christians, we don’t pay for drugs that might cause abortions, which means that we don’t cover emergency contraception, the morning-after pill or the week-after pill. We believe doing so might end a life after the moment of conception, something that is contrary to our most important beliefs.

It goes against the Biblical principles on which we have run this company since day one.

If we refuse to comply, we could face $1.3 million PER DAY in government fines.

Our government threatens to fine job creators in a bad economy.

Our government threatens to fine a company that’s raised wages four years running.

Our government threatens to fine a family for running its business according to its beliefs. It’s not right. I know people will say we ought to follow the rules; that it’s the same for everybody. But that’s not true.

The government has exempted thousands of companies from this mandate, for reasons of convenience or cost. But it won’t exempt them for reasons of religious belief.

So, Hobby Lobby and my family are forced to make a choice. With great reluctance, we filed a lawsuit today, represented by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, asking a federal court to stop this mandate before it hurts our business.

We don’t like to go running into court, but we no longer have a choice. We believe people are more important than the bottom line and that honoring God is more important than turning a profit.

My family has lived the American dream. We want to continue growing our company and providing great jobs for thousands of employees, but the government is going to make that much more difficult.

The government is forcing us to choose between following our faith and following the law. I say that’s a choice no American and no American business should have to make.

The government cannot force you to follow laws that go against your fundamental religious belief. They have exempted thousands of companies but will not except Christian organizations including the Catholic church.

Since you will not see this in the liberal media, please pass this on to all your contacts.

Sincerely,
David Green
CEO and Founder of Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.

Article submitted by: Veronica Coffin

 

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  1. It is unfortunate that a country that was built on religious freedom has come to this. As much as would hurt the financial lives of thousands, I applaud Hobby Lobby for standing firm on their beliefs

  2. It is unfortunate that a country that was built on religious freedom has come to this. As much as would hurt the financial lives of thousands, I applaud Hobby Lobby for standing firm on their beliefs

  3. I love Hobby Lobby and was very upset when they closed the one in Danville, IL. I understand your situation and support your action . It is unfortunate that you will go out of business and thousands of more people will be out of work and on unemployment lines because our own government can't keep it's nose out of your and my business. The best of luck in court and may God be with you and your family!

  4. I love Hobby Lobby and was very upset when they closed the one in Danville, IL. I understand your situation and support your action . It is unfortunate that you will go out of business and thousands of more people will be out of work and on unemployment lines because our own government can't keep it's nose out of your and my business. The best of luck in court and may God be with you and your family!

  5. I love Hobby Lobby and was very upset when they closed the one in Danville, IL. I understand your situation and support your action . It is unfortunate that you will go out of business and thousands of more people will be out of work and on unemployment lines because our own government can't keep it's nose out of your and my business. The best of luck in court and may God be with you and your family!

  6. Hobby Lobby is a place I can show an extension of myself. There's no other hobby/craft store near my city. I'm not from a Catholic family, but we share the same beliefs when it comes to an unborn life.

  7. I would hate to see you close. I have spent many a dollar and hours walking around your store. I am so sorry for what the government is doing. This is what happens when a non Christian gets in control.We will be so sorry for letting our leader be in office. It is going to get worse not better if we don't do something. Thank you for trying.

  8. The difference is that Mr. Green is running a business not a church. He can live his life how he chooses but he cannot force his religious beliefs on others – not even his employees. I don't want my employer dictating how I live my life. I am also Christian and I disagree with Mr. Green 100%. I believe in religious freedom – therefore I support the government on this one.

    • I agree. I’m sure many of his employees wish their insurance covered these things. Also, for the sake of his personal religious beliefs he’s willing to put thousands of people out of a job.

      • So you are sure that many of his employees who knowingly hired into a Christian owned business; who have every Sunday off to worship or not worship (their choice); who have salaries higher than most retail workers; and who go home daily in time to have dinner with their families, would really like the “abortion pill” to be covered under their insurance when they have many other contraception options? Seems kind of silly.

        • It is not an abortion pill. You can’t abort something that is not a being. It is a medication that doesn’t allow a small cluster of cells to implant in the uterine wall (when you scratch your arm you are removing more alive cells from your body than by taking this medication) . There are many reasons for one to use this medication, not everyone who chooses this option does it with a malicious intent (for example, those that have been sexually battered). We should support individual freedom to do with our bodies what we please and not
          try to force religious beliefs and practices on to others. I really love Hobby Lobby, but I love my freedom of choice more.

    • I see nowhere that his religious beliefs are being forced on anyone, not even his employees. The government is forcing him to abandon his religious beliefs in order to operate a business. Last I checked, no one forced anyone to work or shop at Hobby Lobby. I every day try to figure out how mandating someone give up his rights so another can have something he or she can obtain elsewhere is fair.

  9. The difference is that Mr. Green is running a business not a church. He can live his life how he chooses but he cannot force his religious beliefs on others – not even his employees. I don't want my employer dictating how I live my life. I am also Christian and I disagree with Mr. Green 100%. I believe in religious freedom – therefore I support the government on this one.

    • I totally agree with you. The Supreme Court ruling has opened the floodgates for discrimination, as in Indiana. Something has got to be done to stop this “religious” madness.

  10. Sorry Discrimination is Discrimination Does not matter if it is hidden in "faith" Beliefs' ect….

    Next in line can claim "insert Race here" is against their religion…where will it stop?

  11. Sorry Discrimination is Discrimination Does not matter if it is hidden in "faith" Beliefs' ect….

    Next in line can claim "insert Race here" is against their religion…where will it stop?

  12. Anyone that would claim that Barack is a good Christian man of God are not only fools, but live life with blinders on, oblivious of the obvious dangers to faith that surround them. A true Christian won't subscribe to the wholesale murder and reckless disregard for the lives of the unborn, stooping so low as to say "God bless Planned Parenthood" and as a part of government, demand that good Christian business owners violate their beliefs – and religious liberty – in providing a means of murder for their employees. Government is socially, morally, ethically, and politically corrupt. To force the owners to provide contraceptives and fining them to the point of shutting them down is a form of religious persecution, pure and simple. Barack's day will come just like for all who do evil and call it good.

    • Joel Rivera, You are a moron. Bigot much? Our country was not built upon the foundation of Religion, but instead Government for the people, by the people. Your comments above are some of the most ignorant I have ever read. If you are so unhappy here, perhaps you should move to say Iraq or Afghanistan, maybe Syria or Russia,….how about China? It would appear that you might be much happier there instead of in the United States. You should also consider becoming one of the conservative, jihad out of control, idiots that like to behead people. Yes, yes yes, my comments, aren’t all that either, but when I read yours, I thought…this guy is a total fool. A very good example of all that is wrong in our country. Are you sure you are not related to Mike Pence or Rush Limbaugh? How about the entire crew on Fox/Faux News? The idiocy that is yours is reprehensible.

    • I find it amazing that you as a faithful Christian can force your religious beliefs on others but find it discriminating when told you are not allowed to do so. You can believe in God any way YOU want at home on your own time. How dare you expect everyone else to bow down to your religious beliefs. We use to be a nation built on freedom and that includes freedom of religion It has no place in business or politics! I have read the bible from front to back, somehow I think you Christians have missed much of the point of what is written in there and why Jesus laid down his life for you. God created everyone equally and that includes homosexuals. Again, God created EVER ONE equally! How dare you discriminate against anyone and do so in his name. How dare you force your beliefs upon anyone. You think preventing a pregnancy is murder yet you are the first to turn your back on that child born into poverty. And you think you are God-fearing, faithful Christians? You are nothing but hypocrites who hide behind God’s name. Shame on you!
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  13. Anyone that would claim that Barack is a good Christian man of God are not only fools, but live life with blinders on, oblivious of the obvious dangers to faith that surround them. A true Christian won't subscribe to the wholesale murder and reckless disregard for the lives of the unborn, stooping so low as to say "God bless Planned Parenthood" and as a part of government, demand that good Christian business owners violate their beliefs – and religious liberty – in providing a means of murder for their employees. Government is socially, morally, ethically, and politically corrupt. To force the owners to provide contraceptives and fining them to the point of shutting them down is a form of religious persecution, pure and simple. Barack's day will come just like for all who do evil and call it good.

  14. I agree with Hobby Lobby on principle. That said, my greatest fear is that Hobby Lobby will be vindicated and not forced to "follow the law, because faith should supersede the law". This could open the door WIDE for Muslims to challenge all sorts of laws that are contrary to Sharia. Then we are in real trouble. In trying to keep a jump ahead of the Muslims plans for us, we need to be very circumspect in what laws are established and on what basis.

  15. I agree with Hobby Lobby on principle. That said, my greatest fear is that Hobby Lobby will be vindicated and not forced to "follow the law, because faith should supersede the law". This could open the door WIDE for Muslims to challenge all sorts of laws that are contrary to Sharia. Then we are in real trouble. In trying to keep a jump ahead of the Muslims plans for us, we need to be very circumspect in what laws are established and on what basis.

  16. I Love how you are complaining about the government forcing you to do something against your beliefs, while at the same time forcing your beliefs upon your employees.

    • people keep saying as an employer they are forcing their religious beliefs, I am pretty sure the people that applied to be employed with hobby lobby were not so stupid that they did not know they were getting a job that supports religion. I am also pretty sure that people that hate religion would have not applied that is unless they were a Liberal with an evil agenda

      • If you say that people who apply to Hobby Lobby are people who get the job because they support religion, then which religion do they support? Would they have to be people who support only the religion of Hobby Lobby? Remember that we are a nation with no one declared religion. That being said, we are a nation of people coming from multiple religous backgrounds or the right to no religious belief. So what you are saying is that Hobby Lobby would hire those who only support the religion of Hobby Lobby and accept to agree to their relibious terms with regard to healthcare coverage. And if that be the case, wouldn’t that be against the federal anti-discrimination law? That would mean that in order to work for Hobby Lobby you’d have to agree to accept the Hobby Lobby’s religious beliefs upheld by them. That doesn’t uphold religious freedom for their employees, only for Hobby Lobby…it discriminates among their employees.

      • I’m pretty sure that people are just looking for a job and that the people who own the business should keep their religion out of it. When I look for a job, I shouldn’t have to worry whether the owner is a fundie and should only care whether I have a good job, with a decent wage and benefits.

  17. I Love how you are complaining about the government forcing you to do something against your beliefs, while at the same time forcing your beliefs upon your employees.

  18. The only person's faith that you can speak to is your own. If the President says that he is a Christian, then he is for only God can know what is in his heart.

  19. The only person's faith that you can speak to is your own. If the President says that he is a Christian, then he is for only God can know what is in his heart.

  20. Who would you blame this on? Government regulation is what this discussion is about. The company is doing well. The potential closings will not be based on economics.

  21. Who would you blame this on? Government regulation is what this discussion is about. The company is doing well. The potential closings will not be based on economics.

  22. He is not forcing his beliefs on employees. He is saying he will not pay for a benefit that violates his beliefs. They can still have insurance. Mr. Green does not want that insurance that he is paying for to pay for abortion.

    • or for birth control …….. they are a profit making company … so their believes should not enter into medical coverage for employees

  23. He is not forcing his beliefs on employees. He is saying he will not pay for a benefit that violates his beliefs. They can still have insurance. Mr. Green does not want that insurance that he is paying for to pay for abortion.

  24. He is not forcing his beliefs on employees. He is saying he will not pay for a benefit that violates his beliefs. They can still have insurance. Mr. Green does not want that insurance that he is paying for to pay for abortion.

  25. He is not forcing his beliefs on employees. He is saying he will not pay for a benefit that violates his beliefs. They can still have insurance. Mr. Green does not want that insurance that he is paying for to pay for abortion.

  26. He is not forcing his beliefs on employees. He is saying he will not pay for a benefit that violates his beliefs. They can still have insurance. Mr. Green does not want that insurance that he is paying for to pay for abortion.

  27. He is not forcing his beliefs on employees. He is saying he will not pay for a benefit that violates his beliefs. They can still have insurance. Mr. Green does not want that insurance that he is paying for to pay for abortion.

  28. He is not forcing his beliefs on employees. He is saying he will not pay for a benefit that violates his beliefs. They can still have insurance. Mr. Green does not want that insurance that he is paying for to pay for abortion.

  29. He is not forcing his beliefs on employees. He is saying he will not pay for a benefit that violates his beliefs. They can still have insurance. Mr. Green does not want that insurance that he is paying for to pay for abortion.

  30. He is not forcing his beliefs on employees. He is saying he will not pay for a benefit that violates his beliefs. They can still have insurance. Mr. Green does not want that insurance that he is paying for to pay for abortion.

  31. I support abortion on demand. To those who might object to their tax dollars paying for abortions, I would point out that my tax dollars have paid for military actions I didn't approve of.

    I personally believe that, generally speaking, psychiatrists tend to do more harm than good. Anyone with a few unusual ideas and a generous insurance policy is in danger of being incarcerated in a psychiatric facility, at least until the insurance runs out. If an insurance policy includes mental health coverage, I do not want that insurance.

    In order to defend our own rights, we sometimes need to defend the rights of those with whom we have some differences. Though I am not a Christian myself, I fully support Hobby Lobby in their efforts to run their company according to Christian principles.

    • Please do not speak about mental health in this way. You obviously have no education on this matter and are just showing your ignorance and hatred towards a system that does more good than not. It is better to be quiet and respectful than loud, ignorant, and damaging…

  32. I support abortion on demand. To those who might object to their tax dollars paying for abortions, I would point out that my tax dollars have paid for military actions I didn't approve of.

    I personally believe that, generally speaking, psychiatrists tend to do more harm than good. Anyone with a few unusual ideas and a generous insurance policy is in danger of being incarcerated in a psychiatric facility, at least until the insurance runs out. If an insurance policy includes mental health coverage, I do not want that insurance.

    In order to defend our own rights, we sometimes need to defend the rights of those with whom we have some differences. Though I am not a Christian myself, I fully support Hobby Lobby in their efforts to run their company according to Christian principles.

  33. I support abortion on demand. To those who might object to their tax dollars paying for abortions, I would point out that my tax dollars have paid for military actions I didn't approve of.

    I personally believe that, generally speaking, psychiatrists tend to do more harm than good. Anyone with a few unusual ideas and a generous insurance policy is in danger of being incarcerated in a psychiatric facility, at least until the insurance runs out. If an insurance policy includes mental health coverage, I do not want that insurance.

    In order to defend our own rights, we sometimes need to defend the rights of those with whom we have some differences. Though I am not a Christian myself, I fully support Hobby Lobby in their efforts to run their company according to Christian principles.

  34. I support abortion on demand. To those who might object to their tax dollars paying for abortions, I would point out that my tax dollars have paid for military actions I didn't approve of.

    I personally believe that, generally speaking, psychiatrists tend to do more harm than good. Anyone with a few unusual ideas and a generous insurance policy is in danger of being incarcerated in a psychiatric facility, at least until the insurance runs out. If an insurance policy includes mental health coverage, I do not want that insurance.

    In order to defend our own rights, we sometimes need to defend the rights of those with whom we have some differences. Though I am not a Christian myself, I fully support Hobby Lobby in their efforts to run their company according to Christian principles.

  35. I support abortion on demand. To those who might object to their tax dollars paying for abortions, I would point out that my tax dollars have paid for military actions I didn't approve of.

    I personally believe that, generally speaking, psychiatrists tend to do more harm than good. Anyone with a few unusual ideas and a generous insurance policy is in danger of being incarcerated in a psychiatric facility, at least until the insurance runs out. If an insurance policy includes mental health coverage, I do not want that insurance.

    In order to defend our own rights, we sometimes need to defend the rights of those with whom we have some differences. Though I am not a Christian myself, I fully support Hobby Lobby in their efforts to run their company according to Christian principles.

  36. I support abortion on demand. To those who might object to their tax dollars paying for abortions, I would point out that my tax dollars have paid for military actions I didn't approve of.

    I personally believe that, generally speaking, psychiatrists tend to do more harm than good. Anyone with a few unusual ideas and a generous insurance policy is in danger of being incarcerated in a psychiatric facility, at least until the insurance runs out. If an insurance policy includes mental health coverage, I do not want that insurance.

    In order to defend our own rights, we sometimes need to defend the rights of those with whom we have some differences. Though I am not a Christian myself, I fully support Hobby Lobby in their efforts to run their company according to Christian principles.

  37. I support abortion on demand. To those who might object to their tax dollars paying for abortions, I would point out that my tax dollars have paid for military actions I didn't approve of.

    I personally believe that, generally speaking, psychiatrists tend to do more harm than good. Anyone with a few unusual ideas and a generous insurance policy is in danger of being incarcerated in a psychiatric facility, at least until the insurance runs out. If an insurance policy includes mental health coverage, I do not want that insurance.

    In order to defend our own rights, we sometimes need to defend the rights of those with whom we have some differences. Though I am not a Christian myself, I fully support Hobby Lobby in their efforts to run their company according to Christian principles.

  38. I support abortion on demand. To those who might object to their tax dollars paying for abortions, I would point out that my tax dollars have paid for military actions I didn't approve of.

    I personally believe that, generally speaking, psychiatrists tend to do more harm than good. Anyone with a few unusual ideas and a generous insurance policy is in danger of being incarcerated in a psychiatric facility, at least until the insurance runs out. If an insurance policy includes mental health coverage, I do not want that insurance.

    In order to defend our own rights, we sometimes need to defend the rights of those with whom we have some differences. Though I am not a Christian myself, I fully support Hobby Lobby in their efforts to run their company according to Christian principles.

  39. I support abortion on demand. To those who might object to their tax dollars paying for abortions, I would point out that my tax dollars have paid for military actions I didn't approve of.

    I personally believe that, generally speaking, psychiatrists tend to do more harm than good. Anyone with a few unusual ideas and a generous insurance policy is in danger of being incarcerated in a psychiatric facility, at least until the insurance runs out. If an insurance policy includes mental health coverage, I do not want that insurance.

    In order to defend our own rights, we sometimes need to defend the rights of those with whom we have some differences. Though I am not a Christian myself, I fully support Hobby Lobby in their efforts to run their company according to Christian principles.

  40. Walt Calame – Insurance is compensation for labor just like a salary. Does Mr. Green also get to say how his employees spend their salary? Where does this end? If your employer is a Jehovah's Witness, can he stop you from getting a blood transfusion? If your employer is a Scientologist, can he stop you from seeking counseling or accessing anti-depressants? You may be OK with this because you share Mr. Green's take on Christianity but it doesn't stop with faiths, or even sects of faiths that you agree with. What if your employer doesn't believe in modern medicine at all? If we let one religious sect enforce their religious beliefs on his employees then they all get to. And none of us seligious freedom anymore. To access health care we will be coerced into following our employer's take on religion. That isn't American.

  41. If I run a business I should have the right to run my business as I see fit. Not how someone else thinks I should.

  42. He is not forcing his beliefs on his employees, unless getting Sunday off because of CEO religious reasons and not being forced to Church is being "forced" to follow a religion. No one makes these employees go to Church on Sunday, no one makes them pray before, during, or after working. It's like any other job, they just close on Sunday and early during the week. And they don't want to have to pay for day-after pills and abortions for their employees. Personally, I think that's fair. I think that if a woman wants the right to have one and not have the government tell her what she can and can't do with her body, then she can't demand that they PAY for it, either. That should be an out of pocket expense, unless it is rape and proven with a police report there can be charities to help with that. I don't mean make it illegal either but it shouldn't be other's cost. It should be the expense of the woman and the man who did the deed. If she wants to be secretive and hide it from the man, she needs to pay for it on her own.

  43. By refusing to provide birth control is the company insurance plan because of religious beliefs, he is forcing his beliefs onto others.

  44. What happens if your child needs a blood transfusion and your boss is a Jehovah's Witness? Or your spouse is bi-polar and your boss is a Scientologist? Also, the only way you will know what kinds of health services and drugs that your health insurance will cover will be by asking your employer what he or she allows according to his faith. How is that not forcing your religion on others? This is not just about contraceptives – which by the way most Christian faiths have no problem with.

  45. Your entire premise is built on the false idea that you are forced to work for this company. You are not. The owner does not hide his beliefs and as can be seen with this letter, is fairly forthright about what he will and will not do. If this is a problem, my advice is to avoid seeking employment with him.
    Also, *no one is stopping them from getting outside healthcare*. Where did this grand lie come from that anyone is being denied "access" to health care simply because someone else will not pay it for you? If my employer does not pay for me to own a handgun is s/he "denying me access" to my second amendment rights?
    This ridiculous "access" argument needs to die a quick and painful death in the American culture lest we become a people that believe we are entitled to have someone pay for anything we ourselves will not bother to buy for ourselves.

  46. It doesn't say contraception, PERIOD. It says "we don’t pay for drugs that might cause abortions, "emergency contraception, the morning-after pill or the week-after pill." Implying that it's anything that has to do with AFTER conception not BIRTH CONTROL (preconception). Yes, he says "emergency contraception" but again, he follows up with anything that "might end a life after the moment of conception." Again, Roe v. Wade, women won the right to do with what they wanted with their bodies and told the government they had NO right to tell them what they could or could not do with it. Therefore, it is not fair to make a business pay for that "right." The government is infringing on too many rights of businesses as is and it's ridiculous. If I was a business owner, I would not want the government telling whom and what I can and cannot do with MY business or taxing and fining me for what I choose to do. Let me sink and flail. These women don't like it, they don't have to work there. FREEDOM OF CHOICE. Work somewhere else.

  47. As a bandaid, I'm guessing at this, put everyone on parttime, double their hourly rate and let them purchase obamacare. Exempting the company from being an insurance provider. Wal mart has done similar.

  48. Let's look at the scope of religious equality in the work place. True, no one is compelled to work here, but still he is obligated to observe certain fair business practices. If, for example, a he hired a Jew and the Jew had a beard to his belly, even if HL has a dress code prohibiting beards. The same with a Muslim praying at work, or Sikhs wearing turbans. He cannot dictate his faith upon. His employees. Sad to see his business go, but if he's so inflexible, it may be for the best.

  49. Maryce Ramsey Actually, you can speak to others as well. Jesus said "You will know them by their fruits. A bad tree does not produce good fruit. Nor does a good tree produce bad fruit."

    Asking God to bless the work of abortion providers, forcing anti-Christian mandates, promoting perverse lifestyles all are BAD fruits and speak volumes to the integrity and character of this President.

  50. The Gov't has no right to tell any one what kind of health insurance they have to have. The same goes for Gun control. The Gov't is going against the 2nd.amendment.Also the Gov.t has no right to tell people who they can marry. If it is against your religious beliefs follow it. Again the Obama administration is slowly taking away our rights. Illegally.

    • Actually, the government DOES have the right to state what kind of health insurance a company has…it’s called prevailing public interest. Note that state insurance commissioners can enforce legislation which forces employers to have certain coverages in their healthcare plans. Many plans cover contraception as well as male-enhancement/erectile dysfunction medication.

  51. "We believe people are more important than the bottom line and that honoring God is more important than turning a profit." If this were true than you would not close your doors that would effect all your employees and millions of customers. I believe in religious beliefs but only to a point as religion is man-made. If you believe and care for people saying you would close all stores makes you and your family a hypocrite!

  52. None of the drugs that Mr. Green mentions are actually abortifacients. Emergency contraception works by preventing ovulation from occurring in the first place. While it's true that it was once thought to prevent fertilized eggs from implanting, recent medical studies (for example, this one and many others: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20399948 ) have shown that this is not the case. To reiterate: if a woman takes Plan B after she ovulates and the egg is fertilized, Plan B can do nothing to prevent that egg from implanting and starting a pregnancy.
    You may "believe" that these drugs induce abortions, Mr. Green, but the science does not support your belief, and I have a hard time believing you truly take your employees' well-being to heart when you would rather lay thousands of them off than allow them insured access to contraceptive measures which PREVENT abortions.

  53. None of the drugs that Mr. Green mentions are actually abortifacients. Emergency contraception works by preventing ovulation from occurring in the first place. While it's true that it was once thought to prevent fertilized eggs from implanting, recent medical studies (for example, this one and many others: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20399948 ) have shown that this is not the case. To reiterate: if a woman takes Plan B after she ovulates and the egg is fertilized, Plan B can do nothing to prevent that egg from implanting and starting a pregnancy.
    You may "believe" that these drugs induce abortions, Mr. Green, but the science does not support your belief, and I have a hard time believing you truly take your employees' well-being to heart when you would rather lay thousands of them off than allow them insured access to contraceptive measures which PREVENT abortions.

  54. None of the drugs that Mr. Green mentions are actually abortifacients. Emergency contraception works by preventing ovulation from occurring in the first place. While it's true that it was once thought to prevent fertilized eggs from implanting, recent medical studies (for example, this one and many others: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20399948 ) have shown that this is not the case. To reiterate: if a woman takes Plan B after she ovulates and the egg is fertilized, Plan B can do nothing to prevent that egg from implanting and starting a pregnancy.
    You may "believe" that these drugs induce abortions, Mr. Green, but the science does not support your belief, and I have a hard time believing you truly take your employees' well-being to heart when you would rather lay thousands of them off than allow them insured access to contraceptive measures which PREVENT abortions.

  55. None of the drugs that Mr. Green mentions are actually abortifacients. Emergency contraception works by preventing ovulation from occurring in the first place. While it's true that it was once thought to prevent fertilized eggs from implanting, recent medical studies (for example, this one and many others: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20399948 ) have shown that this is not the case. To reiterate: if a woman takes Plan B after she ovulates and the egg is fertilized, Plan B can do nothing to prevent that egg from implanting and starting a pregnancy.
    You may "believe" that these drugs induce abortions, Mr. Green, but the science does not support your belief, and I have a hard time believing you truly take your employees' well-being to heart when you would rather lay thousands of them off than allow them insured access to contraceptive measures which PREVENT abortions.

  56. None of the drugs that Mr. Green mentions are actually abortifacients. Emergency contraception works by preventing ovulation from occurring in the first place. While it's true that it was once thought to prevent fertilized eggs from implanting, recent medical studies (for example, this one and many others: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20399948 ) have shown that this is not the case. To reiterate: if a woman takes Plan B after she ovulates and the egg is fertilized, Plan B can do nothing to prevent that egg from implanting and starting a pregnancy.
    You may "believe" that these drugs induce abortions, Mr. Green, but the science does not support your belief, and I have a hard time believing you truly take your employees' well-being to heart when you would rather lay thousands of them off than allow them insured access to contraceptive measures which PREVENT abortions.

  57. None of the drugs that Mr. Green mentions are actually abortifacients. Emergency contraception works by preventing ovulation from occurring in the first place. While it's true that it was once thought to prevent fertilized eggs from implanting, recent medical studies (for example, this one and many others: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20399948 ) have shown that this is not the case. To reiterate: if a woman takes Plan B after she ovulates and the egg is fertilized, Plan B can do nothing to prevent that egg from implanting and starting a pregnancy.
    You may "believe" that these drugs induce abortions, Mr. Green, but the science does not support your belief, and I have a hard time believing you truly take your employees' well-being to heart when you would rather lay thousands of them off than allow them insured access to contraceptive measures which PREVENT abortions.

  58. Maryce Ramsey – First, I am not Christian, but I believe in freedom of religion. Second, Mr. Green is not forcing anyone to do or not to do anything. He has said he will not pay for, not that he has any control over his employees actions outside of work.
    Mr. Kutra has actually said it better than I can.

  59. Jim Kruta – We have all kinds of protections in place to protect workers from employers whims. Certainly one person's beliefs can be another's whim. We have long expected employers to provide health insurance not because employees are lazy and "entitled" but because they earned it. It is part of their compensation. You may agree with this person not wanting to provide health insurance that covers birth control (which isn't very smart if you are interested in lowering overall health care costs) but I suspect that you would feel differently if you needed a blood transfusion and your employer said "Nope, not with the health insurance I provide." So every employer gets to go through the services and drugs and negotiate with the insurance company to get rid of anything that offends their religious fancy. And of course then every time you go for an interview you have to quiz then employer about what their religious beliefs mean for you and your families health. That is the definition of madness.

  60. The "Govt." is comitting a TRUE HATE CRIME!!!!! I am not the pro american I was. I was a dedicated soldier honorably discharged in 1984. Had I known the evil turn AMERICA/ SODOM has made, I never would have served a second.

  61. It would be nice to be able to have a discussion and disagree without people resorting to name calling. I have supported myself my whole life. And, yes, I am a Christian. Many Christian groups and religions of all faiths support this government mandate because it brings health care to many of our neighbors, something I have no doubt that Jesus would support.

  62. Matthew Edmund Semrau You may feel comfortable standing in judgement of others but I don't. Roger, every American president in recent memory as been called a liar. It seems to be standard practice these days.

  63. Maryce Ramsey His actions stand in judgement. I know right from wrong. God did not tell us to be blind to evil, and to not discern for ourselves whether someone is behaving out of God or Evil. Obama's actions are those of an evil person, and an evil person he is.

  64. It's curious that a company with such strong religious beliefs against birth control buys the majority of its inventory from China – a country with mandatory abortions.

  65. Walt Calame You are so right…don't waste your time arguing with Maryce Ramsey….she is a leftist and they just don't get it….It is HIS business that HE founded….HE should not be forced to pay for what his religious beliefs do not agree with. PERIOD…you can twist it anyway you want to but that is the bottom line. YOU saying he should be forced to do this and that is not American….. Yea..close the stores and have more unemployment…makes sense to me…if you have a loved one who depends on this business for a living you would be more understanding….true leftist at it's best.

  66. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water is an old saying. America is still a nation founded on Christian principles no matter how the left wants to deny it. It is necessary now to get out the votes to sweep the election this November and make sure these laws get reversed by men and women that care to put the country back on the right track. Over 400 senior officers and NCO have been removed or forced to retire in the last year because they do not agree with the current administration.

  67. "We have long expected employers to provide health insurance not because employees are lazy and "entitled" but because they earned it. It is part of their compensation."

    And there is the problem. You have only earned what was agreed to when you were hired. You act as if these people are completely taken off guard when they are hired. This company did not lie to people when they hired them, they were told up front what the company policy covered. You are making the error in assuming the owner suddenly changed the health insurance policies of all his employees.

    "And of course then every time you go for an interview you have to quiz then employer about what their religious beliefs mean for you and your families health. That is the definition of madness. "

    You mean, you are expected to be a responsible grown up when determining your health insurance? It is each person's responsibility to review their health insurance when they get covered, why do you assume it is suddenly the employer's job to make sure *you* are satisfied with the coverage provided by the plan offered? As a grown up, that is your own responsibility. What is madness is the idea that these employees not only cannot think for themselves but that they can't find their own birth control. What is madness is trying to equate a very minimal cost item (birth control) with a more intensive treatment. To reiterate, if you don't like the company health insurance *get a different one*. No employee has *earned* the right to dictate company policy. If you want to offer birth control, start your own business. If you own your own business, great, offer your employees birth control and stop attempting to force others to do so.

    "Many Christian groups and religions of all faiths support this government mandate because it brings health care to many of our neighbors, something I have no doubt that Jesus would support. "

    "Many" meaning "not very many." The majority of the American people are against this law for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is this completely trampling of religious conscience. Jesus would support deciding for yourself to be a good neighbor, not using the government to hold a gun to someone else to be a good neighbor in your stead.

  68. Ray Slover
    It is extremely ignorant to claim that the founders of Hobby Lobby are forcing their religion on its employees.He is not forcing anything on anyone. He simply states that his company, based on his moral principles, will not pay for it. An employee may purchase insurance elsewhere or work elsewhere…that is their right.

  69. John T. Tunison I used to feel that way sir, no more. not against the vets, and other real people. My family served all the way back to the rvolutionary war. My mother and siblings built B-17's and c-47's during WWII. My Father in Navy 10 years all through the same war.. His Father in the Spanish American war. I found a "Pension" of his 6.00 per month for contracting malaria. wow!!! A direct relative made the Delaware? crossing with General G. Washington. I could not match their contributions but gave 6 years voluntarily. 3.25 Active.This is not what my family spilled there guts and bled for. I mean no offense. Exept to the pigs that are comitting these crimes.in D,C.

  70. Maryce Ramsey: Those are necessities. Your argument is comparing apples and oranges. An abortion is an ELECTIVE PROCEDURE. It is an OPTION or a choice. You can not tell companies and the government to get out of your vagina and then demand they pay for what you want done to it when you go out and get knocked up. Like I said, in the case of rape, fine, let it be covered with a police filing.

    And Ray, if there is a Hobby Lobby in the town, I am 100% certain there is more than there to work at.

    Yeah, Hal, the owner has more than enough money to let the business go rather than be fined that amount per day. It's the principal of the matter. The fact that there is probably no woman complaining of this, it's the government saying they have to whether they like it or not. It's the fact that the government is all up in everyone business too deep, too far, too much, and they have no right to be. They need to collect the tax money and quit micro-managing how businesses run. It's about the fact that one person complains and conglomerates have to comply and change laws. I get that some of them need to be; but it gets to a point that it becomes ridiculous. An abortion is an ELECTIVE PROCEDURE. It does NOT affect your health.

  71. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  72. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  73. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  74. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  75. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  76. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  77. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  78. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  79. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  80. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  81. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  82. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  83. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  84. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  85. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  86. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  87. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  88. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  89. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  90. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  91. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  92. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  93. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  94. Maryce Ramsey your scenarios are about saving lives, not taking them. The way you make your comparisons, as if abortion is just another medical procedure, tells me that you have not really thought through what abortion really is. Preventing someone's potential life.

  95. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  96. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  97. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  98. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  99. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  100. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  101. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  102. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  103. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  104. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  105. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  106. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  107. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  108. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  109. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  110. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  111. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  112. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  113. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  114. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  115. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  116. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  117. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  118. I love Jesus but I can't stand his delusional followers that think that their sin is better than other peoples and claim to know the mind of God and forget that the two most important tenets of Christianity are to Love God with all your heart and Soul and to love thy neighbor as thy self. You people couldn't stand Christ if he were here before you and you would call him a long haired socialist. Abortion is bad but killing is good because Some politicians and FOX news said so. I believe a bunch of you are going to be in for a big surprise when you meet you maker and find out that you were all wrong. My favorite part of the bible is when the sons of god came to earth in genisis six and had sex with earth women and their children were great men, men of renown. Who were those sons of god? It said in the bible that they had slaves and multiple wives to so I guess that means that is ok as well. Why don't we go back to that? It's in the bible so it must be right! Yet most Christians have no clue how the bible came to be and who wrote what and edited it. If Jesus is the greatest man to ever live then why is so much of his life missing from the bible? The only place the devil resides is in your head and in your pants. So many have pimped and perverted the message of Christ that modern Christianity is nothing but a big hate filled and hypocritical dog and pony show because your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend. You people would have a hard time understanding where the sun goes at night much less understanding forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

  119. I believe in religious freedom. Therefore, Hobby Lobby must provide insurance to its employees. Otherwise it would be infringing on their religious rights, and a company does not trump a person. I don't believe you mr. Green. I believe you are being facetious and have a hidden agenda.

  120. Then don't work for Hobby Lobby, Ms. Ramsey (in regards to your argument of all your "what ifs"). It is a family created, grown and ran business, not government. The business owner reserves the right to choose what benefits they see fit and can AFFORD.

    When I was younger, I use to wonder what the old saying, "if you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything" really meant. Now at middle age, with more education under my belt, and a previous small business owner to boot, I totally understand what it means. Perhaps you need to ponder the saying for yourself, because you have certainly fallen for the lie.

  121. this is a company that treats its employees very good, granted they are not getting rich working there but the pay and benefits are better than most retail and way better than fast food. Plus they get every Sunday off to be with family and friends what a concept? They do not force any religion on to anyone and they treat there employees with respect and that's something that the liberal politicians that are ruining this country know little about .

  122. Maryce Ramsey Insurance has been what is called a BENEFIT…something extra provided free, or at a reduced cost by the employer.

  123. It is the belief of the Catholic church that the pill is abortifacient in that it prevents a fertilized egg from implanting

  124. He says it outright, It's against his religious beliefs. The first amendment trumps Obamacare, and he will be exempt, just like everyone one else saying it's against their religion.

  125. Ben Petrone You are right let all die who has no insurance the fewer the 1.
    having little or no money, goods, or other means of support: a poor family living on welfare.
    2.
    Law. dependent upon charity or public support.
    3.
    (of a country, institution, etc.) meagerly supplied or endowed with resources or funds.
    4.
    characterized by or showing poverty.
    5.
    deficient or lacking in something specified: a region poor in mineral deposits the better, Government has no right to tell us how to run our life so I say stop every thing that has to do with helping any American who wants every thing for free, let the poor over run the hospitals let them suck up(hospital)the cost to make it even more of a cost to the rich! but most of all keep helping all the other country's but our.

  126. Maryce Ramsey . If my employer were a JW they wouldn't have to pay for a blood transfusion… I would and if I didn't want to I would work for someone else… my choice. I don't want my company to be forced to buy insurance for me. I want to buy it myself ONLY if I decide to buy it…if it's whats right for me. Obamacare is NOT insurance it's a tax on medical care for chumps. If you want insurance it must fit this description… 10 year term life insurance for example… "I think I'll die in the next 9.9 years." Insurance company – "We'll take that bet… we don't think you will but will pay you xyz amount if you do if you'll pay us abc amount every month that you don't." If it's worth the gamble I take it and I now have insurance. Where is the gamble in obamacare?? there isn't… it's just me paying money into the government, them spending it however they choose, the good doctors retire or move to central america and open up american hospitals, and america continues in it's downward trend.

  127. Maryce Ramsey First of all, Greene is not saying that you cant get health care somewhere else and get these drugs some other way. I remember when health care would not pay for existing conditions. You had cancer, diabetis or any other major illness tough. And now we have the government that has said that everyone should have their own insurance or get fined. What do you think the insurances companies are going to pay for? You think it will be at a higher price? How about that drug is not covered unless you carry a higher insurance? His refusal to carry insurance for drugs that go against his principal will be just a drop in the hat when Obama care is really in place. Why should he be fined for not carrying an insurance that pays for these things?

  128. I disagree with Mr. Green! You run a business, Sir, you have absolutely no right to push your religious beliefs on your employees by denying them birth control! Birth control pills do NOT cause abortions either. You need to read up on things in the medical world. It's beyond obvious that you have NO medical knowledge when it comes to the female reproductive system and birth control. Your employees pay a premium for their insurance. They are basically paying for the birth control. Some people might say you are not pushing your religious beliefs on them by denying them birth control but I disagree. Corporations are not people. You run a corporation in which your employees work for. They don't work for you exactly, they work for the corporation as a whole.
    I hope you go out of business, I really do. Shut down the stores for all I care. It is people like you, Mr. Green, that are ruining this country. Perhaps you should take a good hard look at why your religion is dying. You are nothing more than a Pharisee that is condemned to eternity in the mass grave called Hell (it is not a fiery furnance like people think, pretty damn sad that non-Christians know the book of lies [aka the bible] better than people like you)! Enjoy hell, Pharisee, I'll never shop at your stores!

    Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!—-Matthew 7:21-23

  129. You are wrong about insurance being compensation for labor like a salary. Wages/salary are compensation for labor. Insurance is a benefit (NOT A RIGHT). The government has no place in forcing any business to provide any benefits for their employees. Only wages and salary are required. Otherwise, it would be slavary.

  130. That is dicrimination…..He is suppose to be bring jobs…not taking the ones we have away. I will pray for your company….GOd willing Obama will be Impeached!

  131. Bye. I haven't set foot in a Hobby Lobby since this debate started. Just as he has a right to run his business as he wishes, I have a right to say that I will not support a business that (IMO) is not an EEOC employer. By refusing to provide preventative birth control, HL is discriminating against those who have different religious beliefs or sexual habits. Unless he is suggesting setting up a fund to pay for ALL prenatal care for a pregnant employee, plus a stipend after the birth, since he doesn't want to prevent it?

  132. Maryce Ramsey The difference is … no one HAS to work for him. If they disagree with the way that he runs his stores, they simply need to work somewhere else where there is insurance that they like.

  133. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  134. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  135. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  136. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  137. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  138. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  139. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  140. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  141. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  142. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  143. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  144. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  145. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  146. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  147. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  148. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  149. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  150. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  151. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  152. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  153. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  154. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  155. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  156. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  157. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

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  171. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  172. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  173. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

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  175. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  176. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  177. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  178. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  179. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  180. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  181. I was about to say the same thing. I was wondering why nobody had mentioned it. Then again they probably haven't read up on the medication. As a former pharmacy tech we had to take a CE class on it and I was shocked to learn how the pill actually works.

  182. You do not have the right to make medical choices for your employees, period. I highly doubt that you foot 100% of the costs of their health insurance, THEY PAY FOR IT, they should be able to have full access to all the medical options available, in accordance with their own beliefs.

  183. What happened to god? Why would god allow such a government to exist? Why would god allow a devout Christian's business to suffer? Because god is not real, and you are an asshole.

  184. Lee Joseph Mitchell – Hobby Lobby has not indicated they discriminate against anyone, unless you feel you would need an abortion pill. If someone wants an abortion pill they are free to pay for it themselves. I always paid for my own birth control and can't understand why anyone thinks others should help pay for theirs.

  185. Maryce Ramsey – Thanks to Obamacare restrictions employers place on insurance will become moot. Everyday more employers cancel their insurance plans and employees must buy their own.

  186. Eric Black You are not being forced into employer offered health insurance. You can be a grown ass man and decline it. Buy it on your own and pick what you want. You need to educate yourself on the affordable care act before mouthing off a bunch of nonsense. You sound ridiculous.

  187. You are being bombarded by a bunch of people buying into scare tactic and lie based opinions. They call you a leftist or liberal like it is a bad word. I will always vote to keep religion out of our laws. I do not see why they think Hobby Lobby is being forced to pay for abortions and birth control when employees pay the majority of the premium and all of the copay, all of the deductible and all of the prescription. Hobby Lobby pays a low portion of this group discounted insurance. They should just chalk that up to their part of insurance is not going toward the care they whine about that is frankly non of their business. I also love how all these comments about people don't have to work there are thrown around. Yes because jobs are so abundant that people can just pick and choose from the millions of openings. Get real. What Hobby Lobby wants is to dictate what you do in your home and in your pants. They do not walk into my appointment and write the check, I do.

  188. Jim Gunslinger You're a disgusting man for implying Allen should have been aborted because he is pro choice. Shame on you, I bet your mother is super proud of your pathetic communication skills. Come back when you have something of value to add to a conversation.

  189. I love that part when you show your hypocrite off by saying "cant keep its nose out of my business" and yet you want hobby lobby to shove their nose right up every woman's vagina. Really cute.

  190. No Peggy.. I want to tell my employees that they have to take on the financial responsibility for their bad choices..

    If I'm a JW, and I think blood transfusions are horriible sins against God.. then I should not be forced by the government to pay for them. If that means my employees need to ask the government to provide transfusion services for free.. that's not my responsibility as an employer.

    I'm not sure why I'm responsible to offer any health insurance whatsoever..

  191. Frank Mattison If you do in fact have 50 or more employees you show me where you pay more of the premium than they do. When you prove you pay more, you can complain about what your portion covers, until then your argument is invalid. You are not paying for anything other than a small part of a discounted group rate. It is none of your business what other people do. Your religion does not belong in my home. You do not decide what is right for me. You do not trump my beliefs. You want to get out of paying any portion to offer health coverage to your employees, the same employees that make your business possible. Without them there is no "your business". There are too many of you who think your religion is "the one" and we cannot go through each belief and cater to each demand. Separation baby.

  192. Walt Calame You talk like he is footing the entire bill and has to cut the check in the abortion clinic. WE are paying our premiums too and we pay a larger portion. We choose what we want with our larger portion. Stop with the whole "company pays for it" when they only pay a portion of the policy premium.

  193. Maryce Ramsey well when does the government stop. I think its hypocritical for you to say that about mr green, but allowing the government to tell him how to run his business. What s the difference? The beautiful thing about this country is freedom. When is the government going to take that away?

  194. Peggy Prouty…. You and Maryce Ramsey need to think before speaking… No one is saying that an employee CANNOT take any of those pills if they choose to — They have every RIGHT to go, purchase them and pay for it… Just as it is every employers RIGHT to choose which (IF ANY) benefits are given to their employees…

    If either of you two opinionated women have every been a business owner then your comments would have NEVER even taken place… If I were to run a store and the only thing I offered my employees was a great salary (enough for you to pay for the insurance of your choice)… Would you work there?… if so, would you actually purchase insurance for yourself?… Most people would pocket the money and not buy it… but that is their CHOICE… Just as it is the employers choice to offer such benefits at all!!! I for one don't want to pay for one of my employees personal choices…

    He NEVER stated that he didn't want to provide insurance… What he SAID was that certain aspects of the benefit he will provide should not be mandated to include certain things… if you don't like your employer's "BENEFIT" packet, you can always decline it, take $ in lieu of what they pay for your premium and go get your own policy which would then fall on you from your precious gov to keep as they are enforcing everyone to do!!!

    Sorry everyone that this was so lengthy but I just HAD to chime in response to their poor, misguided and crazy opinions!!! I truly believe that they are simply making statements to see what they can "stir up"!!!

    No need to reply to this comment because I have said my peace and will NOT be back to read anything you may or may not have a response for because I simply do not care to hear (read) any more of your uneducated rantings!!! Have a blessed day Peggy and Maryce!!!

  195. Peggy Prouty…. You and Maryce Ramsey need to think before speaking… No one is saying that an employee CANNOT take any of those pills if they choose to — They have every RIGHT to go, purchase them and pay for it… Just as it is every employers RIGHT to choose which (IF ANY) benefits are given to their employees…

    If either of you two opinionated women have every been a business owner then your comments would have NEVER even taken place… If I were to run a store and the only thing I offered my employees was a great salary (enough for you to pay for the insurance of your choice)… Would you work there?… if so, would you actually purchase insurance for yourself?… Most people would pocket the money and not buy it… but that is their CHOICE… Just as it is the employers choice to offer such benefits at all!!! I for one don't want to pay for one of my employees personal choices…

    He NEVER stated that he didn't want to provide insurance… What he SAID was that certain aspects of the benefit he will provide should not be mandated to include certain things… if you don't like your employer's "BENEFIT" packet, you can always decline it, take $ in lieu of what they pay for your premium and go get your own policy which would then fall on you from your precious gov to keep as they are enforcing everyone to do!!!

    Sorry everyone that this was so lengthy but I just HAD to chime in response to their poor, misguided and crazy opinions!!! I truly believe that they are simply making statements to see what they can "stir up"!!!

    No need to reply to this comment because I have said my peace and will NOT be back to read anything you may or may not have a response for because I simply do not care to hear (read) any more of your uneducated rantings!!! Have a blessed day Peggy and Maryce!!!

  196. Maryce Ramsey not true…he is saying he will not pay for contaceptive drugs and that's just not right. If I am his employee and for some reason (say I'm raped), I should have insurance that will pay for my care MY way, not his! I love Hobby Lobby and I would be sad if they close, but I believe that he is wrong on this one. Next thing you know, he won't pay for someone's hospice care, saying that it speeds the end of life…..

  197. Maryce Ramsey not true…he is saying he will not pay for contaceptive drugs and that's just not right. If I am his employee and for some reason (say I'm raped), I should have insurance that will pay for my care MY way, not his! I love Hobby Lobby and I would be sad if they close, but I believe that he is wrong on this one. Next thing you know, he won't pay for someone's hospice care, saying that it speeds the end of life…..

  198. Maryce Ramsey-you are just wrong, plain and simple. Employees know what they are getting themselves into before the are hired, and if they don't then they can leave. On top of all of this, Mr. Green is not saying how, what, when, where or why, your paycheck is going to be spent. He's not even condemning someone for wanting the option of contraceptive, he is merely saying that he is not willing for it to be an option in his business which is more then fair, and if you don't like it well then don't work for the company! The government and liberals alike have yet stepped across the line onto touchy territory and Mr. Green here is holding his ground in which he has every right to do so, they face that you do not see this is something you should be highly worried about.

  199. Maryce Ramsey-you are just wrong, plain and simple. Employees know what they are getting themselves into before the are hired, and if they don't then they can leave. On top of all of this, Mr. Green is not saying how, what, when, where or why, your paycheck is going to be spent. He's not even condemning someone for wanting the option of contraceptive, he is merely saying that he is not willing for it to be an option in his business which is more then fair, and if you don't like it well then don't work for the company! The government and liberals alike have yet stepped across the line onto touchy territory and Mr. Green here is holding his ground in which he has every right to do so, they face that you do not see this is something you should be highly worried about.

  200. I didn't read the article … And we don't have Hobby Lobby's here, but I sure miss them and thought they were awesome, except on Sundays…In which they were closed, when I hated them….

  201. The way I see it, if someone has an abortion, then it is their choice. Only God can judge them for what they have done and there is such a thing as forgiveness. God knows what is in a person's heart, and he is the ultimate decider of a person's fate. So for everyone on here complaining about people who choose to do so, remember…. it isn't your business what someone else is doing. And another thing, when are they closing? I can use some good deals on clearance items. This Sunday Sunday Sunday!…. oh wait… nevermind.

  202. ah,, bummer. I love Hobby Lobby! I work in sales/marketing at IKEA so kind of the same. Will miss them. NO!! not Michael's. They'll be closing, too. (what I hear)

  203. ah,, bummer. I love Hobby Lobby! I work in sales/marketing at IKEA so kind of the same. Will miss them. NO!! not Michael's. They'll be closing, too. (what I hear)

  204. What has happened to "Of the people, by the people & for the people"? If there was less government control, the issue with the Hobby Lobby stores would be non-existent. WAKE UP……..our nation is headed toward socialism! I live in Okla. where Hobby Lobby was founded. The majority if not all the Christian conservatives in this state are backing the Green family 100%. There need to be more Christians who are willing to take a stand for what they believe. I applaude the Green family & am praying for God to be honored whatever the outcome. After all, HE'S the One who's in control!

  205. What has happened to "Of the people, by the people & for the people"? If there was less government control, the issue with the Hobby Lobby stores would be non-existent. WAKE UP……..our nation is headed toward socialism! I live in Okla. where Hobby Lobby was founded. The majority if not all the Christian conservatives in this state are backing the Green family 100%. There need to be more Christians who are willing to take a stand for what they believe. I applaude the Green family & am praying for God to be honored whatever the outcome. After all, HE'S the One who's in control!

  206. Maryce Ramsey – Insurance is not compensation, it is a benefit. And if the benefit OR compensation don't suit you, go somewhere else! If you choose to stay but don't like the health benefits offered by the company, go buy your own!

  207. less imports from China, better air quality for us in Los Angeles. best wishes to the former employees.

  208. less imports from China, better air quality for us in Los Angeles. best wishes to the former employees.

  209. doubt they'll close, family is making too much money and after reading this, I probably won't shop there anymore and support this pretentious Jesus freak

  210. Carolyn Space, what part of "thou shall not bear false witness" did you not read/understand??? it's in those 10 commandments you must claim to follow.

  211. My girlfriend works at hobby lobby, She has to be picked her up at 9-10pm. That is not closing early. This guy is so full of shit his eyes are brown.

  212. if the bottom line is caring for your people you would think you would do what your people want or need….just saying

  213. As soon as he stops using those godless chinese suppliers I'll listen, until then he is not walking the walk. Jesus would slap the crap out of you sir. You no more follow him than the Chinese manufacturers you use.

  214. As soon as he stops using those godless chinese suppliers I'll listen, until then he is not walking the walk. Jesus would slap the crap out of you sir. You no more follow him than the Chinese manufacturers you use.

  215. Laura Lucey, We are not talking about abortions here. We're talking about contraceptives and the morning after pill which are not the same thing. Contraceptives are not abortifacients. Emergency contraception works by delaying ovulation, seeking to prevent fertilization thus preventing unwanted pregnancy and abortions.

  216. Laura Lucey, We are not talking about abortions here. We're talking about contraceptives and the morning after pill which are not the same thing. Contraceptives are not abortifacients. Emergency contraception works by delaying ovulation, seeking to prevent fertilization thus preventing unwanted pregnancy and abortions.

  217. He is not quitting He is continuing to take it to court as necessary. If he can continue to keep his stores open without betraying God, then he will. Am I to assume that all of your who are calling him a quitter would have fought as hard as he has to do right?

  218. Why should they be forced to provide coverage for those types of medications? Nobody is forced to provide fertility benefits are they?

  219. For all of those saying that he's forcing his beliefs on the employees….those employees have a choice not to work there just as he should have the choice not to offer that as part of his insurance.

  220. Not quite sure what your question is, but yes I would fight for my right but I would not quit the game just because the odds are in the opponents favor. I believe God will prevail, no matter what and I am just the instrument. "Lean on, trust in, and be confident in the Lord with all your heart and mind and do not rely on your own insight or understanding." Proverbs 3:5

  221. Well if they want them to pay for the drugs, then why not pay for the sex too. Street sex workers need more money too. Pay to kill a unborn kid, then pay to have sex what is the differents?

  222. God bless you, your doing the right thing. One of the reasons I like your store is because of your Christin values. I wish I could pick and choose where my tax dollars go. We should never ever be forced into paying for something that is so wrong. I just shake my headin shame.

  223. John Bireley, Your points have a degree of validity, as do most libertarian ideas; however, Is this really "free enterprise"? Is this really "capitalism"? I do agree that a company should not be required to provide health insurance because, I think we should have a single payer system. For the time being, this is the best we've got. Until then, this is a tangled up, and expensive, mess!

  224. Actually, I left the Republican party for he Libertarians. I love the fiscal and gun policies of the Republicans, but they just can't seem to pull their noses out of the Evangelical ass. I think people should be allowed to choose what they do and don't purchase. I have no problem with them protesting this law, as it only gets worse and worse as time goes on. i just think it's very hypocritical that he's going to take a stand on abortions against someone who chooses them, yet thinks it's perfectly alright to make money off a country that forces it on women.

  225. I think what annoys me most about this whole thing is the healthcare covers SO MUCH MORE than just contraceptives and Plan B, etc.."No, we're only worried about that part, that's the part we don't agree with" really? I can't be the only one who thinks it's so ridiculously stupid that you would close over 500 stores across the country, because the health care the government wants you to have, has one tiny piece in the whole grand scheme of things that you don't agree with. Also, you are a company, and while it's your company and you raised it like your own little child from the moment it stood on it's wobbly legs (when it was a garage) to the successful adult it is today, there are decisions a company makes that you need to separate your religious beliefs to what is right for your employees. I'm not saying lose your religious beliefs, I'm saying much like there is supposed to be a separation of church and state, there needs to be a separation of church and work. Not everything you believe is actually good/healthy for everyone. this is the second time I've read this article, still makes me just as mad.

  226. You DO care about the money or you wouldn't be a Tea Party Greed monger to begin with. Selfishness is unChristian and stop pretending you ARE Christian while espousing unChristian behaviors and policies. Good Riddance.

  227. Thank you for letting us know there was a litmus test to shop in your stores. I have purchased a few things there…but thankfully not as much as I might have. When corporations attempt to use the power they have gained to impose their beliefs on their employees or clients, they should close down. I don't miss my Papa John's Pizza or my Chik Fil A…and I won't miss Hobby Lobby…I thank GOD and Pope Francis that I live in a free country where religious imposition is still not tolerated.

  228. I use birth control and I'm an abstinent Christian that lives in Iowa where this has been the law for SEVERAL years. Have anyone of you had an honest conversation with women about birth control? Because by many of these comments it is clear you have not. I know SEVERAL women BESIDES myself who use it for MEDICATION. I'm not using it to abort babies and am insulted by the idea that people are propagating that is the only use for birth control. Besides it's sheer willful ignorance. You have Mothers, Sisters, Aunts, Daughters and Wives…who have terrible cramping, severe blood loss and other ailments and conditions brought about by our monthly cycles. NONE of you know this!?! I find that VERY VERY hard to believe. I have friends that used to throw up or pass out. My back pain and cramping was so bad that I went to qualify for FMLA because I was incapacitated for a day almost every month and my Dr said birth control will stop all that…and it did. It's MY MEDICINE!!!! and hugely hypocritical to not have the same stance on Viagra

  229. Just curious – how do you justify selling the stuff in your store that is made in China – who has a one child policy and is very extreme on birth control. Is it only against your religious beliefs when it costs you money? Close or stay open – it truly matters not to me because I will not spend my money in your store – if everything you sold was 100% made in the USA I would respect your view but that is not the case.

  230. I support the stand that you have taken. May God Bless you in your court action. To God Be the Glory.

  231. "Christians don't lie" best piece of fiction I read in the comments section. Everyone lies. Some better than others. But stop hiding behind your "Christian" shield when you're spouting negative, hateful lies.

  232. I can see his point only to the fact the government has gave exceptions to some companies, etc. I don't think that is fair. If health care act is mandated it needs to be for every company. With that being said it is not the employers position to exclude options to their employees in these plans. It is up to the individual to use whatever service is offered to him or her. He can't naive enough to believe everyone who works for him has the same principles.

  233. I recently lost my job at hobby lobby over something that happened 3yrs prior along with 6 other employees. I believe if you, David Green, are a true Christian you would have given me a second chance at store #198.

  234. He is the owner so, he can do whatever he wants with his company…………. and if you are an employee and you disagree about this situation … go and get another job and stop complaining about everything

  235. Teddy Alfrey – So just because Hobby Lobby won't pay for something, it means the employees cannot have it? I guess you think that Hobby Lobby employees cannot have cars and homes because Hobby Lobby won't pay for them.

  236. Mr.Green is wrong on this one,he feels bad but Not bad enough to keep folks working.He will cause many to be punished because he is forcing his beliefs on every one else…it is a Business,not a church! Not a private business with only"Christians" working there ,a Public business.!

  237. sue them you have constitutional rights just like anyone else has and it is time we stand up to the government for forcing things on us that are our rights of choice

  238. "Since you will not see this in the liberal media, please pass this on to all your contacts."

    What Liberal media?

    Anyways, yes. You should close everything you have just because the government wants your people to have health insurance. All off of, what did you call them again? Abortion causing drugs?

    Your lies make me sick.

  239. Robert Huck, I see your point but cars and home are not the same as health insurance. Suppose, Hobby Lobby were run by someone whose religion tells them that all medical intervention is a sin. Would that mean that they should be exempt from supplying their employees with health insurance while businesses owned by those of other religious, or non-religous persuasions, have to? What if they said they would only hire people who shared their beliefs? I realize that it's not THAT big of a deal to pay for your own contraception or family planning. It's just the principal that I'm concerned with. As I said earlier tonight, I believe there should be single payer health insurance which would leave the employer out of the equation thus, ending this, or similar, controversies. Unfortunately, that's not the way health care is set up, right now. I think it's Hobby Lobby's right to close all 500 stores, if they see fit. It's also their right, to sue. I'm not arguing that. I just say, I don't feel right supporting a business that operates, in this manner, even though, I've spent quite a bit of money, at Hobby Lobby in the past, knowing full well the owners were Christian. Their religion never was the reason we stopped shopping there.

  240. Here is a radical idea but what else would you expect coming from a liberal Christian, offer the mandated health coverage and supply free consulting for your employees and their families, helping them to make better choices than taking abortion pills. It is bound to cost less than $1.3 million a day and it solves your other religious problem of throwing all of your employees out on the streets in a weak economy, not what I think Jesus would want you to do. Just my simple solution, feel free to ignore it and close the stores, what's a few thousand more unemployed anyway – you are not your brother's keeper.

  241. Bravo Hobby Lobby!!! If men women want to live differently GO live it somewhere else!!! They don't have to work at Hobby Lobby!!!!!

  242. If he's a scientologist can he make you pilot a space ship? Mr. Green has an appropriate surname as he is all about money and dominion ism. Yeah he knows best when it comes to someone else's family and he's going to make sure his employees follow his demands. As the saying goes" if men could get pregnant there would be an abortion clinic on every street".

  243. There are many parts of this conversation that we could debate back and forth, but I really think that we NEED to cover contraception, that being birth control. You can run a business with a strong believe in God, and I think it is important for our nation’s leaders to have a strong faith that stems from doing what is right for all the people of this country. Here is the real problem that no one wants to address…If you look at the facts; here is what you will find. 50 % (49%) of our nation’s population is not working and on government assistance. This is not from the down turn of the economy; it is from the welfare system failing to do what it was meant to. Our welfare system has added to the demise of our county, because it is not working as it should. We NEED it, and it should be fixed before anything else. By not allowing contraception, how do you think these individuals (Welfare recipient) are going to have safe sex that prevents children being born out of wed lock and disease. If we do not cover contraception, think about all those additional babies we will need to cover and pay for. Don’t you think it would be less expensive to cover the birth control then to pay 18 years to raise a child? As a government, you have to think about what is best for the people and country. Birth control is not killing babies; it is preventing them from being conceived. Sex is part of life and until the entire nation comes to grips with it we are still going to hear the word abstinence, which you know is not happening. So we need to make precautions available to the people of our country. In the long run it is the right thing to do and I truly believe God would agree, since there is so much more danger in sex then when the Bible was written. I am a believer and I know God understands exactly where I am coming from….. Now we will still have issues with welfare until we fix the way it works today, but let’s not add to the percent of population on welfare by not covering contraceptives.

  244. I stand behind Mr. Green 100%. The company was founded on Christian values. Everyone knows how they stand. If you don't agree with what they do or don't provide in their healthcare plan, then don't work there. If people would live according to Bible principles, this wouldn't be an issue. This world has turned into a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. People are so nonchalant about sex and abortion. No big deal they say. Utube the video called "The Silent Scream" then think twice. He's not trying to cram his beliefs down anyone's throat -he founded his company on Christian values and should be allowed to continue to do so. And in case you've forgotten, this country was founded on Christian values.

  245. It is not what he believes that matters… it is what each employee believes. By refusing them he IS forcing his beliefs on them. Does he go door to door and make sure all his employees are not living in sin, go to church, and up hold his Christian values? Probably not!

  246. i think america needs more stores like this that can stand up to the government and say we are not going to take this anymore, good for this companys morals, some people dont have morals. and i am proud to be a christian.

  247. Whether you agree or disagree with this mans beliefs or how he runs his business is entirely inconsequential to the fact that he is big enough on the totem pole to fight the real issue. The fact that we now have a government gaining revenue from its citizens by FORCING us to buy a SERVICE or pay a FINE. Let him take it to court. Bless him and I hope he wins cause at least he was willing to stand up and say this is BULLSHIT. While everyone else bickers over an issue/issues that will never have a real resolution. Not every single person is ever going to agree on abortion. Not gonna happen. Maybe if we as a county realized we are watching this nation be run into the ground while you all sat around arguing over the crumbs….

  248. I've only been in Hooby Lobby once!!! Wasn't impressed…. nor was I impressed with ChikFilA which I also tried once!! The same goes for Papa Johns!!!

  249. Go ahead and close all your stores, lay off all of your wonderful employees whom you claim to pay so well! SMH. And then some

  250. geez, what century are these business owners living in? by what right do they have to deny people contraception. they can dictate their family and their own life beliefs but cannot do the same to employees. they are in the wrong.

  251. Separation of church and state. Just because they believe one thing, doesn't mean their workers believe in the same thing…unless they are discriminating during the hiring process and only hiring Christians. If that is the case, then those who are anti-abortion will most likely not choose to get an abortion and they won't spend much, if anything, on abortion-related pills or procedures. Though, I applaud them for speaking up about their beliefs, I do not agree their religious beliefs should be stated as an ultimatum against a government policy. It is extortion: if you don't agree with our religious beliefs, then we will lay off all of our workers. Again, separation of church and state. Also, contraception can help a woman's health – how can they decide a person shouldn't get it because they interpret the Bible in a certain way?

  252. I don't usually comment, but hobby lobby I cherish your values and admire your hours, closing on Sunday. I beg you to search in your heart to let the abortion issue rest. God gave us the ability to choose plan and simple. I am not agree or disagreeing. Let the Lords light shine through this process just focus on the Law.

  253. I do not subscribe to any particular religious point of view. I am however extremely spiritual and believe in a very higher power. That said, while I don't subscribe to Mr. Green's religious views, I defend to the death his right to them. As far as his company goes, whatever he chooses to do or not do with it, it is his company. He created it and he built it and he has every right to do with it what he sees fit. Don't like it? Don't work for him. Is he a hypocrite? Does he buy from China? Are his wages not high enough? None of that is relevant in any way whatsoever. What is relevant is that the government has no business telling any business owner what to do and how to do it so long as it is harming no one and no thing. And maybe Mr. Green runs his business like he would run his church. So be it. It is his right. What does the Constitution say about the separation of church and state? No one knows what is best for me other than me, or maybe my spouse and kids who know me better than anyone else possibly could. The US Government damn sure doesn't know what is best for Mr. Green or his employees, or the rest of us for that matter.

  254. Does any religion says one could have premarital sex? When that is not restricted why force to bring unwanted children to suffer in this world? Are we not Hippocrates in saying that I don't agree a girl to get abortion legally when some one is raped? Show me where and who takes care of these children who leave children to their fate. Where is the family life for the. I know how foster parents system work, that is not a solution. When there are no answers for many of these questions why cling to only abortion.

  255. I have the utmost respect for your company and the principle for which it stands for. You made mention of not supporting a Government that mandates medications that support abortion causing drugs. AMEN! I am right there with you. I would hope that your belief and principle is also AGAINST childhood vaccination since most of the vaccines that are injected into our babies and children contain aborted fetal tissue. Please do not be divided when it only supports one side of the coin. For credibility, be congruent!

  256. I don't believe this guy for one moment. It's all about his bottom line, not his belief system. He sounds like one stingy SOB who will send many people to the streets to obtain other employment.

  257. Francis Castro – as Kelly Zimmerman said, go into any Hobby Lobby store and read! Of course, with your mindset, you'd probably just claim that "some Liberal" planted the labels.

  258. So, do I have the choice not to pay for Churches (tax exemptions), Creationist textbooks and schools, 10 commandment and cross monuments, or wars I don't believe in? Because, if so, then sign me up.In the meantime, I hope for Hobby Lobby's demise so that better owners can take over.

  259. If you can't afford a kid keep your legs closed or your pants up. There are many different forms of birth control. A person can get condoms for cheap, why do I as a tax payer am burdened with paying for someone's responsibility. 100 years ago this behavior was shunned and it needs to start again. All the money I pay in taxes I could have a house and two nice cars. Personal responsibility.

  260. I hate to see hobby lobby go, I shop there often for my craft needs. But, I do understand and support the owners in their decision. In essence this is a form of persecution due to religious beliefs. The owners don't believe in aiding abortions, and refuse to be a party to it due to their beliefs, therefore they will be fined and hassled.
    If you don't agree with their stance, no-one I'd forcing you to shop there.

  261. How is not covering those medications any different than any other Ins company dictating what medications are covered or not. Or businesses adding different riders to their plans blocking certain benefits or adding other benefits.

  262. Peggy Prout Obviously, you are the one that is TOO (not to) dense to get it. People are saying that it is your own business if you want to get pregnant and murder your unborn child and Hobby Lobby wants no part of it. The insurance is not dealing with what we refer to as "birth control", but rather, pills that some believe cause abortion. This is debatable depending on what research you follow. Hobby Lobby doesn't force anyone to work for them. If you don't like their insurance policy, which you can inquire about during the job interview, then don't work for them. Go work somewhere else. Or better yet, pay for your own Plan B. This is the same for anywhere else with any other beliefs. You say that they are forcing their beliefs on you (or the employee) by not covering the morning after pill or plan B and other such pills, but YOU (or the employee) would be forcing your beliefs on them by forcing them to cover your choice to possibly kill (as they believe) your unborn child (or whomever we are talking about). Things go both ways here. The point is that Hobby Lobby should not be forced to go against their beliefs as no one is stopping you from yours (they are not telling you that you can't use Plan B or some other such pill because they don't believe in it, they are just saying they will not pay for it). It is as simple as that! Have a great day!

  263. Yes, plan B and other such pills are a form of so called birth control, but not in the same way as the other birth control pills as according to what many people believe. I made an error in how I worded it earlier, but I'm sure most of you get the point.

  264. well I guess this is what the government wanted more jobless claims and buildings setting empty.its a family owned business and if the owner chooses not to allow mandates to be handed down by government violating his beliefs then he has the free choice of serving the government or simply refusing by shutting his doors on the business he built. too bad that the enforcement of gov laws and regulations have brought this situation to this business. but that is federal government at its finest causing a catch 22 in constitutional rights.

  265. The Great thing about being an American is freedom of religion. If these services go against his beliefs then I say he shouldn't have to pay for those services. Freedom is pure and simple Freedom! If this upsets you, then you have the Freedom to find another job that will give you the services you want. Why do some people feel it is the obligation of others to give everything even when it goes against the truths they hold to? Tolerance breeds acceptance and love while division infects the masses with hate and fear. Live and let live and move on

  266. The purpose of separation of church and state is to allow coexistence and protection of each from each. When you step in and try to force a private entity (in this case a corporation which has 1st amendment rights according to the supreme court), then you cannot constitutionally force said private entity to compromise their religious beliefs. The problem is NOT hobby lobby. The problem is a law which strong arms a third party entity into being a middle man in the purchase of a product against their will. The government ought to provide this product to those who need it or they should get it directly from their insurance carriers. Get rid of these ridiculous barriers which only obstruct access to healthcare and add a layer of expense and you will not have these problems to begin with. If you don't want your boss in the bedroom, DON'T MAKE HIM BE THERE!

  267. If you believed people are more important than profit, you would put aside your differences for the benefit of the people.

    LIARS!

  268. They care so much about their employees that they close early and on Sundays but are willing to see the whole lot of them unemployed because of drugs that might cause abortions? That is just the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. How Godly of you David Green. *rolls eyes*

  269. I can shop elsewhere. Hobby Lobby is a nice store but they can't expect to dictate their personal beliefs onto others. How is it he plans on making his "Christian" fortune when he closes those stores? Sounds to me like a case of cutting ones nose off to spite his face.

  270. I am sorry, but hobby lobby is not christian. It is a business and will be treated like one, not a religious entity. Mr. Green also lied in his statement, the Catholic church IS exempt from paying for emergency healthcare contraception. They are a religious organization. Hobby Lobby is not. The insurance comes out of Hobby Lobby's profits, not Mr. Greens. He does not directly pay for the insurance, Hobby Lobby does. That is, if he abides by legal accounting practices. If he does not.. then maybe he isn't as Christian as he wants us to believe.

  271. People here are acting as if he's denying his employees access to birth control entirely, when he's not. He just doesn't want to PAY for it. As soon as his employees are given their paycheck, meaning the money is now theirs, they can go OD on birth control all they want. And birth control is not like an anti-seizure drug that costs $100+/month (something insurance should cover) that is needed for someone to live a regular life, while the symptom birth control prevents [pregnancy] can be avoided by simply not having sex, so it in fact a luxury. Birth control is already pretty affordable, too. It's not like people are struggling to pay for it. So given this, there is no reason on Earth an employer should have to pay for it; especially if it violates his/hers religious beliefs and is threatening to shut down instead of paying for it. The fact many people here are outraged that he's forcing his views on his employees need to take a look at themselves and see they're forcing their views on him just as much (if not more, considering he's simply telling his employees "I won't do this for you" while everyone else here is telling him "you HAVE to do this) over something insanely petty. In fact it's interesting how the people (typically the Left) who are always screaming "DON'T FORCE YOUR VIEWS" and "BE TOLERANT" force their views on others constantly and are very often very intolerant themselves (see the Chick-fil-A and Phil Robertson instances). If you're not with them 100%, they you're not with them at all. In their mind, not paying for birth control = denying access to birth control. It's like they have a right to force their views on others, but not vice-versa.

    But you know what? You're going to lose. He's not going to pay for birth control. He is instead going to shut down. You hit a brick wall when you mess with someone's conscience. So if you think Hobby Lobby should be forced to pay for birth control, you must realize your wish is going to be answered by many people being laid off. Which brings up a question: Do you think employees would be better off being unemployed than being employed but having to buy their own birth control?

  272. You would be paying for "health care" which encompasses MANY things….how your employees choose to use it is THEIR right and choice and between them and God….it's none of your business.

  273. I don't feel he is forcing his beliefs upon anyone. He just does not want to have to support something that he does not believe in. This is not to say that these employees can't receive these services…they just have to seek them out without the help of their employer… Faith, true faith does not stop no matter what you are doing – it doesn't matter if you are running a business or not you must still uphold your belief system.

  274. Why does Mr. Green purchase many of his Hobby Lobby products from CHINA, the county with a policy of 1 child per family and forced abortions. Mr. Green is a hypocrite.

  275. I pretty much agree with you except for one thing. By refusing to carry insurance that includes coverage for a woman's rights to choose, isn't he then forcing his employees to believe his religious point of view. Some would tend to view his position as religious persecution if they were his employee. (I guess I'm playing the role of devil's advocate here.)

  276. People who believe that companies pay only a small portion if health premiums probably don't work for a company that provides that benefit. On average a company pays 70% + of insurance premiums and due to purchasing power that ends up being even more than individual plans. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights protects Freedom OF Religion, not freedom FROM religion. When people actually understand that distinction the better of our country would be

  277. Yet most of the inventory comes from China, a country without god and with more than 13 million abortions a year…yeah he seems really principled.

  278. Well, he CAN'T say that one has to be a Christian to work for him, as religion is one of the protected classes that can't be discriminated against for that sole reason. See also: race, color, creed, sex, gender.

    Another thing…this isn't about abortion. It's about hormonal birth control. The kind that over 95% of women use or have used. Preventing an unwanted pregnancy is the best possible goal. Have you ever heard of a good outcome from an unwanted pregnancy?

  279. You would think that if he really had an issue with this, he would stop sourcing his goods from China. You know, the atheist country that has 13 million abortions a year.

  280. Also, if your God exists (and that's questionable) and was omnipotent and omniscient and all that, he wouldn't need the support of mortals. God would just change the minds of those who thought differently.

  281. Weather you're religious or not, if we as Americans let our government tell us what or what we cannot do and impose fines for not obeying them we might as well give them full control so they can tell you when you can shit, where you can work, who you can associate with, sounds kind of like a theme to me. You go Hobby Lobby, close those doors. If more people would get off there ass and care about what folks died for in this country we would not be in such sad shape.

  282. While reading the posts, I have noticed that it is mostly men that agree with this company! Us women are against what this guy is doing, we don't want to go back in history. That is a fight that is already finished.

  283. I find this extremely selfish. All your employees will suffer from losing their job. Does that seem far to the families you seem so passionate towards? Unless you are going to help place them in a new work place making the same amount they were making then you are only thinking about yourself. What is your employees point of view on this?

  284. Good riddance you hypocrites. Someone else will be there to take your place, and offer the employees the health insurance that they want not the insurance to be dictated by the employer.

  285. David Green, pray God send you a prophet to sustain you and give God's Wisdom (not man's) on how to endure and flourish. Believe God to be established;believe His prophet to prosper. The Lord promises the Spirit will give more Grace!!!

  286. Doesnt really matter, It may be selfish, but it should be the owners right to decide his/her policies for their stores, i mean why not they built it. The government doesnt own the buisness so in reality it should not have a say in its operations…Those in office whether it be the white house or congress need to realize that they are causing more job loss than this just by taxing and snuffing every buisness big or small out of every dime they can possibly get to cover the losses incurred by their own outragious spending…

  287. Tough call. I support your right to stand by a religious principle and close all of your stores. Of course your action will actively punish and betray most of the people that believed in your families leadership. This will also make way for others working out of their garage to enter the market place, which is a positive thing. Of course, your stores will be bought or an equal amount restarted which is the basics of capitalism.
    In the end you make a statement and the voice of Christianity either grows or diminishes. If all Christians follow your standard – the ultimate conclusion would be no Christians own or manage business. Considering federally funded hospitals perform abortions now, my assumption is this decision was made a long time ago. Your federal and state tax dollars indirectly and even directly pay the hospital costs. I admire your stand; yet tax dollars have been used for a long time. Is the real issue wanting to under insure or frighten employees? Some companies opt out and their employees actually have positive cash flow as a result. Good luck in your decision!

  288. Some die-hard Muslims believe if someone leaves the religion they should be murdered. They also believe waging war on others who don't practice the religion is their duty. Using the logic of this CEO, Muslims should be able to do this because it is their religious beliefs?

  289. I agree that guy is awful, but I'm pretty sure china changed that policy? I could be wrong…I will research.

  290. What good could closing your business down do for you, or any of your employees or customers? You would use your business as a pawn to protest your religious beliefs? You have created a business in America that thousands depend on and share your same views, how selfish do you want to be? God would not approve of your political move of closing either?

  291. What if the anti abortion crowd were talking to Obamas mother and she told them, I would have aborted him if it had been legal. Would they think, DAMN!! Look at the stats on who is being aborted. It's not conservative people. Only libs abort. I say keep on what you are doing.

  292. I do not support the government on this one! The government has no right to tell a business what they have to do, if it goes against principles! I am so saddened to see that this country is going to soon not be blessed because the majority in this country are pushing what is sacred and right out! Stand tall Hobby Lobby and I'm so proud that someone has the strength to stand by what they believe in!God bless you and May God bless us all, even the ones that think they don't need him.

  293. We'll be glad to see you go. Make room for a business that accepts that employees have freedoms just like large businesses. If you want to open a church, open a fuckin church. You want to run a business, follow the laws of the land, and open that business. My religion insists that I maim families who own craft stores, but the federal government restricts my rights to follow the teachings of that religion. Want me to break my religious views, or the law? Screw yourselves, and your magic book. Good riddance to ignorant people who value an old book fables more than the laws of man. Dude, kill your intolerant family and leave the planet a better place.

  294. I am tired of Mr Green using religion to avoid paying a government mandate. So get the lawyer and stop whining.Your family has gotten rich like the Waltons with sock sales because of American people.

  295. They care so much about their employees that they close early and on Sundays but are willing to see the whole lot of them unemployed because of drugs that might cause abortions? That is just the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. How Godly of you David Green. *rolls eyes*

  296. Well it is a family decision. I don’t know, but it doesn’t seem right to force out loyal employees into the horrors of unemployment, possible homelessness. Putting families into hunger and dire medical stuations should they arise. Just doesn’t sound very Christian to me. Ah well, life in these un-United States, Congrats on you being able to excersise your American rights.

  297. I love your store. I love listening to the wonderful music as I shop. Your employees are the best, honest cheerful and thoughtful. I pray that your company will survive this.

  298. “A new government healthcare mandate says that our family business MUST provide what I believe are abortion-causing drugs as part of our health insurance.”

    Therein lies the problem — just because you BELIEVE them to be abortion-causing drugs does not make them so. Even a cursory knowledge of how the morning-after pill works makes it clear that it is not, in any way, an abortifacient. They *prevent* conception, and in no way interfere with a conception that has already taken place.

    Perhaps if Mr. Green should care more about his employees than he does about his own image among the ranks of the deluded.

  299. How sad that thousands of people will be out of a job, very Christian like to throw people to an economy that has no jobs. While yes it is a choice to work here, I doubt very much that a question in the interview was asked about their views on this. I doubt they were told that they could potentially lose their job if something came up that the CEO didn’t believe in. While it is a choice for some for others it isn’t they MUST take the first job that comes to them.

  300. How is not covering those medications any different than any other Ins company dictating what medications are covered or not. Or businesses adding different riders to their plans blocking certain benefits or adding other benefits.

  301. Wow. The silly comments about employers “could then be against blood transfusions and surgeries, etc”…no where in the Bible does it state you shouldn’t receive medical care; HOWEVER, it clearly states, “Thou Shalt Not Kill”. Abortion is murder and is clearly going against God. He came that we may have life and have it abundantly, not for us to snuff out lives we find inconvenient. Selfish people that can’t wait 9 months and then even put the baby up for adoption. That’s what’s wrong with our society today. Self-serving attitudes, lack of compassion.

  302. Romans 13:1 Obey the government, for God is the one who put it there. All governments have been placed in power by God. 2 So those who refuse to obey the laws of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow. 3 For the authorities do not frighten people who are doing right, but they frighten those who do wrong. So do what they say, and you will get along well. 4 The authorities are sent by God to help you. But if you are doing something wrong, of course you should be afraid, for you will be punished. The authorities are established by God for that very purpose, to punish those who do wrong. 5 So you must obey the government for two reasons: to keep from being punished and to keep a clear conscience.

  303. Well it is a family decision. I don’t know, but it doesn’t seem right to force out loyal employees into the horrors of unemployment, possible homelessness. Putting families into hunger and dire medical stuations should they arise. Just doesn’t sound very Christian to me. Ah well, life in these un-United States, Congrats on you being able to excersise your American rights.

  304. I think we’re forgetting it’s the private sector so he can operate his business any way he so desires. And another thing, it’s okay to force the beliefs or lack of them, of the government, on the business owner?? If an employee wants birth control he/she can but them on their own. No need to force others’ beliefs on him. Hypocrites

  305. Is David Green personally responsible for paying for birth control?

    No?

    His business is?

    Then it’s not an attack on his beliefs. He’s not being forced to do anything.

  306. So he is going to close all of his stores just because he has to cover pills that prevent pregnancy or stop it in case of an accident? What an idiot!! This is why When I turned 18 I gave up religion, raised a Catholic I NEVER agreed with their ways, a woman’s body is her own and I am pro-choice. How would he feel if his daughter was raped and became pregnant, would he force her to keep a rape baby? This whole issue is stupid, close your stores just because you are close-minded. total BS!!!!!

  307. This is one family’s business, and people are not forced to work there, therefore he should be allowed to run it as he wishes without the government sticking their nose in and forcing anything on anyone. Pretty soon we’ll have 1984 coming to life and yes, much already is…but this would be the whole concept. It’s so sad, a family owned business is put down by so many, yet provides time off for their employee’s, bends over backwards for them, and is still put down by so many..the same ones who complain because businesses stay open on Thanksgiving and Christmas. Kind of talking in circles aren’t you?

  308. Do all of Mr. Green’s employees share in his religious beliefs? No. Mr. Green and his family are more than allowed to personally opt out of the contraceptive coverage. However, he cannot choose for his employee’s. This country is founded on the concept of religion is an individual experience. Each and every citizen is free to choose whether to follow or not follow any religion. Would he be allowed to prevent Islamic employees from wearing religious head coverings? Then he is already making some consessions when it comes to his religious beliefs.

  309. It’s been said, “Live the way you want, but you must obey the law of the land.” The truth was spoken by St. Peter, who said, “Judge for yourselves whether we should obey God or man.” The government has erred egregiously by violating religious freedom. Some people voted for CHANGE, and that is what Socialism and its partner, Communism, are successfully accomplishing in America. Mr. Green, owner of Hobby Lobby, is living his life by faith in our Creator. He is absolutely correct; the government is absolutely wrong.

  310. This man is a despot. He demands to be able to force his religion upon his workers. What if his religion did not allow for blood transfusions (as some do not). Should he be able to force his employees not to have blood transfusions?

    There is a lot in this world I have to pay for that I do not want to fund on moral and ethical and religious grounds – like warfare. Grow up..

  311. I sure hope the CORPORATION’S rights to not cover health care does not include blood products, electrical equipment, or those devil devices like ambulances or helicopter rides. Seriously would be more “Christian” to deny people any healthcare and go back to the Dark Ages.

  312. I feel bad for Mr. Green’s employees. The sad part is – unless you’re 100% self employed, you’re at the whim of whoever happens to be at the top. Lots of companies self destruct at the hands of their leaders. Sounds like Hobby Lobby is adding themselves to the list.

  313. Anyone who thinks that this is about him being such a great christian and standing up for his beliefs is deluding himself. This is about him putting his beliefs on others and threatening everyone’s job in the process to get his way. I wonder how all of you “christian americans” would react if he demanded you sign an agreement that you would never own a gun or have anything to do with guns if you are one of his employees. By your own logic this would be well within his right to do so!

  314. Stand your ground and sue the government. At least you are trying to do something to stand up for this. Christians are tired of the government telling them they have to provide

  315. Marcuse – why is it that you believe it your right for your employee to pay for your health? Just because that is the way it has always been? That’s not a valid argument. Not all employees are given health care provided by their employer just because they work there. And if you want to have sex with your partner and get pregnant as a result – WHY in the world do you think your boss should pay for you to abort the child with a morning after pill etc. that is absolute insanity. What if you ask your boss if you should have sex before you have sex? If he has to pay for your abortion shouldn’t he have a right to warn you before hand aboubeing a responsible adult

  316. As an Atheist I agree with Hobby Lobby’s right to run their business, and their property as they see fit. If you don’t like that don’t shop at their store, or start your own. Its amazing that people act as if they have a gun to your head.

    I for one could care less. I would continue to shop their if they stayed open as I respect people that assert their freedoms, and rights. So long as these aren’t pushed on me. The only thing that would stop me from shopping there is their outrageously high prices.

  317. We as Christians have the right to fredom of religious beliefs and freedom of speech this closing goes against the constitutional rights that we have and I think the GOVERMENT SHOULD LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE CANT

  318. I feel bad for Mr. Green’s employees. The sad part is – unless you’re 100% self employed, you’re at the whim of whoever happens to be at the top. Lots of companies self destruct at the hands of their leaders. Sounds like Hobby Lobby is adding themselves to the list.

  319. Let me guess – Obama and the gub mint are also responsible for your runny nose. You brought this upon yourself. You and you alone. You built this. You have no right to step into people’s bedrooms, whether you employ them or not. Now, yo9u reap what you sow.

  320. I am a Christian also, but my issue is, the morning after pill isn’t aborting anything. All it does is keep the egg from attaching to the wall of the uterus so it can be fertilized and make a baby. That isn’t causing an abortion when no life has begun.

  321. So they’re OK with their money supporting child labor, environmental destruction, and human rights violations in China where they get the majority of their products but don’t want employee insurance plans to cover emergency contraception to prevent a child that the employee can’t afford because they work at Hobby Lobby? Weird.

  322. This press release is just a pathetic pr stunt to attempt to justify their decision to try to get out of paying for healthcare for their employees. I’m too smart to believe this crap. This is insulting.

  323. anyone who sides with the government on this oughta BE SHIPPED OFF TO CUBA…. Seriously it’s like DEMOCRATS ARE FRICKIN SPACE ALIENS …. LIKE PODS … not even human beings…..

  324. YOU can do whatever the f**k you want Mr. Green and your family members can do the same. You have no right to be making those decisions for your employees. Companies (especially large ones) don’t often have to obey many laws anyway. It’d be refreshing to have them obey a few.

  325. well, they should close if they do not follow the law and offer the services that are mandated by the gov’t. It is a PERSONAL CHOICE if you want to get an abortion, or the abortion pill, or any other service a person has a right to get!! The ‘christian’ people that work at Hobby Lobby can choose NOT to participate in the insurance program. It’s all about CHOICE!!!!

  326. LOL, the lies of the Teapartiers!!! Hobby Lobby just signed a 10-year contract to open up yet another store, and they have close to 600 stores, not 500!!! Think about it!

  327. I love how people who don’t even work for this company feel they can stick their nose into it’s business with their opinions. I have a suggestion, what about interviewing employees who work for this company and ask them what they think? If you don’t agree with their business philosophy don’t shop there or seek employment there.Get a life and stay in your world. Just like people who ran their mouths against Chick Fil A. If Employees don’t like the benefits they are providing then buy your own or go to McDs and get work.

  328. We stopped shopping at Hobby Lobby when this issue first surfaced. There are other Craft chain stores who will be happy tho fill the gap if they close. I say, don’t let the door hit you on the butt, on your way out!

  329. Would hate to see your store close, I really enjoy shopping there but I agree with you. Christ is important and should remain the main focus that you have built this business on. Praying for you and your family! God bless

  330. I commend you for LIVING the gospel of Jesus Christ….the world is a mess, but doing what we know is right and your stand for truth is commendable! It is your faith-centered business model that has provided you the success and blessings that have touched the lives of so many. I honor and applaud your tenacity in the most difficult times of this world. Thank you!!

  331. Bye. I haven’t set foot in a Hobby Lobby since this debate started. Just as he has a right to run his business as he wishes, I have a right to say that I will not support a business that (IMO) is not an EEOC employer. By refusing to provide preventative birth control, HL is discriminating against those who have different religious beliefs or sexual habits. Unless he is suggesting setting up a fund to pay for ALL prenatal care for a pregnant employee, plus a stipend after the birth, since he doesn’t want to prevent it?

  332. I’m with the government on this. He needs to stay out of this. It’s none of his business and certainly not his right in any way to make a decision that belongs between and woman and her doctor

  333. I have never known a company to pay 100% of employees insurance. Usually the employees pay for their insurance at a group rate contracted by the company. Insurance should be for any purpose that a person would need medical attention. Reguardless what it is ! If a doctor is needed and / or a perscription is needed your insurance should cover it. Since when do you have to report to the company you work for before you need to see a doctor or for what reason you need to see a doctor, and use your insurance that you are paying for as well. I thought your medical stuff was privite. . If your emplyees think as you think and believe as you believe then they won’t need to use the insurance for what ever you think they shouldn’t . Putting all those people out of a job and hurting familys that you think so highly of is a better solution to a problem. You know that birth control is used for problems other then prevention of preqnacy’s . It should not matter to you why I needed to use my insurance as long as i was staying healthy and keeping my family healthy by going to the doctor. However i doubt the company will read any of these comments anyway . But that is what i think .

  334. How is not covering those medications any different than any other Ins company dictating what medications are covered or not. Or businesses adding different riders to their plans blocking certain benefits or adding other benefits.

  335. Mr. Green sees abortion as murder of an innocent victim that cannot speak for themselves. This is what he does not support not medical treatment or someone’s right to make a choice. If you felt a life was going to be taken from an innocent would you not do everything in your power to stop it. We are not speaking of denying medical benefits but of murder as far as he and so many others are concerned.

    No one is forcing anyone to work for Hobby Lobby if they do not like the benefits.

    Before you except a job position you check out what the pay and benefits are before you decide to except the position. If you don’t like what you see you don’t work for them. Lack of desired benefits may result in the business owner personally having a harder time finding employees but that is their cost and I am pretty sure they are more than willing to risk it.

    If current employees are effected by this I think Mr. Green should offer a generous severance package and allow them to look for a new job if they desire. This too would cost him but then again when has it ever been easy or cheap to stand up for religious beliefs in this day even though this is the very reason our country was founded.

  336. Hobby Lobby is a great company to work
    for, the company’s insurance does in fact
    pay for “birth control” to prevent
    conception, it should not be expected for
    the company to pay for others poor choices,
    the opportunity to have insurance & to have
    a prescription for “birth control” is there but
    It’s up to the individual to take advantage
    of what has been offered to prevent the
    need for an “emergency pill” a persons lack
    of planning should not be expected to be
    the responsibility of others!!!

  337. So let me get this straight….this company wants the government out of their business so they can keep their religious freedom by not paying for “abortion pills” but yet they want to turn right around and encroach their religious choices on their employees by not covering therm with medical insurance. Ok Bye Bye! I’ll go to A.C. Moore or Michaels.

  338. So you want all the government handouts and breaks that you can get, yet when it’s time to abide by the laws, you balk? There are plenty of things you can do to reformat your company so you can excuse yourself from having to offer insurance you don’t believe in, but it would have to start with foregoing receiving all those nice HUGE perks from the government. Sorry, but I just don’t think you get to have it both ways…

  339. The problem with the complaints against this is your idea that you are free to have your religious beliefs but he isn’t. That doesn’t change because he’s doing something that affects the economy and the country. And he isn’t telling people what they can and can’t do with their money, just that he won’t be told what he can and can’t do with his. Whether or not you agree, you have to accept that his freedom is just as important as your freedom.

  340. Interesting, 93% of private health insurance plans cover abortions, but any type of government healthcare is prohibited from doing so through the Hyde Amendment, but Hobby Lobby is saying they will close because the plan they choose to offer must have contraceptives on their formulary?? The pill is used for a myriad of other reasons than birth control, and there are a plethora if drugs that may cause spontaneous abortions if taken. I wonder if they would protest cancer drugs that could cause abortions? I think this is more about politics rather than their religious beliefs.

  341. I don’t feel he is forcing his beliefs upon anyone. He just does not want to have to support something that he does not believe in. This is not to say that these employees can’t receive these services…they just have to seek them out without the help of their employer… Faith, true faith does not stop no matter what you are doing – it doesn’t matter if you are running a business or not you must still uphold your belief system.

  342. Marcy’s Ramsey, really. We are talking anout freedom here not your foolish reality that an employer has to furnish your medical proscription for abortion. He is not saying he will not have health insurance. He owes you nothing in the regard you speak of.

  343. So let me get this straight….this company wants the government out of their business so they can keep their religious freedom by not paying for “abortion pills” but yet they want to turn right around and encroach their religious choices on their employees by not covering therm with medical insurance. Ok Bye Bye! I’ll go to A.C. Moore or Michaels.

  344. the company is only required to be a partner in the purchasing of insurance. the human being and their doctor are responsible for deciding what procedures are used in different circumstances. I understand that you would never use an abortificant, but I don’t believe that a part of your ‘christianity’ is dictating how other human beings should live.

  345. This press release is just a pathetic pr stunt to attempt to justify their decision to try to get out of paying for healthcare for their employees. I’m too smart to believe this crap. This is insulting.

  346. So, let me get this straight. Mr. Green would rather close stores and leave thousands of HIS employees without jobs, than to possibly have health care that mandates the morning after pill?? That is some backwards thinking, right there!

  347. It surprises me that coming from a Man who repeated over and over that they created jobs for many people, would simply close their doors and not even think of those same people.

  348. You stupid stupid person!! If you want the people who work for by not to avail of the contraceptives part of ACA then employ people who are as fanatically religious as you are! Problem solved!!! Just remember one thing you are just as crazy fanatical as any other Religious Nuts on this earth

  349. I’m so sorry for your family! The Government is wrong! I hope you win your lawsuit! Or better yet, I hope Obama is impeached before you shut your doors! Then Obamacare will go down with him! Keep the Faith! It could happen!

  350. Peggy Prout Obviously, you are the one that is TOO (not to) dense to get it. People are saying that it is your own business if you want to get pregnant and murder your unborn child and Hobby Lobby wants no part of it. The insurance is not dealing with what we refer to as “birth control”, but rather, pills that some believe cause abortion. This is debatable depending on what research you follow. Hobby Lobby doesn’t force anyone to work for them. If you don’t like their insurance policy, which you can inquire about during the job interview, then don’t work for them. Go work somewhere else. Or better yet, pay for your own Plan B. This is the same for anywhere else with any other beliefs. You say that they are forcing their beliefs on you (or the employee) by not covering the morning after pill or plan B and other such pills, but YOU (or the employee) would be forcing your beliefs on them by forcing them to cover your choice to possibly kill (as they believe) your unborn child (or whomever we are talking about). Things go both ways here. The point is that Hobby Lobby should not be forced to go against their beliefs as no one is stopping you from yours (they are not telling you that you can’t use Plan B or some other such pill because they don’t believe in it, they are just saying they will not pay for it). It is as simple as that! Have a great day!

  351. Does any religion says one could have premarital sex? When that is not restricted why force to bring unwanted children to suffer in this world? Are we not Hippocrates in saying that I don’t agree a girl to get abortion legally when some one is raped? Show me where and who takes care of these children who leave children to their fate. Where is the family life for the. I know how foster parents system work, that is not a solution. When there are no answers for many of these questions why cling to only abortion.

  352. regardless of your religious views or ‘freedoms’ .. abortion is infant slaughter no matter which way you twist it. i will have no part in it, and neither should any other person who is worth their salt

  353. I don’t believe this guy for one moment. It’s all about his bottom line, not his belief system. He sounds like one stingy SOB who will send many people to the streets to obtain other employment.

  354. Mr. Green, I haven’t shopped at your stores since I found out this for several reasons. The first one being that you run a business, not a church. The second one being that if you win, it will set a dangerous precedent that will undoubtedly turn into a free for all for people with religious beliefs about certain procedures. Have a Jehovah’s witness for a boss? No blood transfusions. Roman Catholic? No birth control pill. Christian scientist? No meds. The third reason is that you would not be paying for this form of birth control. Your employees will get a health plan that pays for it in exchange for their labor. They are paying for it with their labor. The fourth is that the medical profession has repeatedly asserted that these pills DO NOT CAUSE ABORTIONS. If you’re already pregnant, THEY DON’T WORK. I should know, I have a uterus and I find abortion sad and horrific. I’ve looked into emergency contraceptives because I wouldn’t want to use something that disrupts and actual pregnancy. You want to prevent abortions? Reduce poverty in your work force. Provide BIRTH CONTROL and do what you already do by fostering a work environment that encourages them to have HEALTHY families. If you reduce the cause of abortion, unplanned pregnancies in situations where people are unprepared for them, you will reduce abortion. I’m also a Christian. I’ve been shopping at your stores since I was a child and I find it depressing that I will have to buy yarn on the internet now. Christ didn’t shame or attempt to control women. On the contrary, he shamed men for shaming them. Repeatedly. FYI if you back off on this, I will support your business again. Until then, Thank God for Amazon.

  355. Really? You open your doors to ANYONE wanting to buy your products, but you want to mandate what your employees do with their lives? This is the silliest thing I have ever heard of a business trying to do! You might as well put a sign on the door saying Christians only and sinners need not apply!

  356. Conservatives whining and playing the blame game.

    Hobby Lobby can’t compete with Michaels. I’ve been in HL and their merch looks like a redneck garage sale.

    Conservatives need to learn ACCOUNTABILITY and RESPONSIBILITY and stop playing the blame game

  357. regardless of your religious views or ‘freedoms’ .. abortion is infant slaughter no matter which way you twist it. i will have no part in it, and neither should any other person who is worth their salt

  358. This is a privately held company and he could run his business as he wishes. I could care less what your religious position is. These employees have a choice. They can purchase contraceptives with their own money or find a different job.

  359. Stand your ground the best you can, and render unto Caeser what is his. Hire the type of employees that most likely would not use insurance the way Obama wants them to. Use your best judgement, then leave the sin at the Savior’s feet.

  360. It surprises me that coming from a Man who repeated over and over that they created jobs for many people, would simply close their doors and not even think of those same people.

  361. When you take the political and religious agenda from this argument, we’re left with some food for thought. For instance, it is a woman’s right to choose how she will use her health benefits. Part-time employees don’t receive employer supported health benefits. The medications in question do not apply to men, gay people, and people of a certain age: all of whom need jobs too. So one has to wonder, just how much of a conflict of faith would compliance with the Obamacare guidelines of this issue be?

  362. That’s the biggest load of BS ever. Trying to blame government if they decide to shut down. It’s a business not a church. They have no right to tell their women employees what kind if meds they can and can’t take.

  363. It’s a privately own company, so for the Government to come in and say that you have to do this and that is not living the American Dream. The Affordable Care Act is in fact costing millions of jobs, and is turning America into a non productive Country. I earn 37k a year, if I lose my employer based health care, I will have to pay $349 a month out of pocket for health care. If I decide to live off of the Government, I will get it for free. Seems counter productive to me.

  364. My first question would be….are ALL the employees of the same faith as he and have the same beliefs as he? It is not right that he pushes he beliefs on all his employees. When they applied for the job is there a place on the application that asks about their religous beliefs? It’s one thing not to want to pay for
    the morning after pill but for daily birth control to prevent pregnancy is something else. Daily birth control usage does not cause abortion. When used it can help stop the need for one.

  365. WOW…and all these comments remind me of why I left the Midwest and why I’m not a “Christian”. Jesus would be so proud of all the name calling and hating from you followers…NOT. WOW

  366. Hobby Lobby doesn’t want the government imposing the law on them because of their beliefs. It goes both ways. Hobby Lobby shouldn’t be allowed to impose their beliefs on all of their employees.

  367. Mr. Green, I’m touched by your story of building your business from a little garage start up to where it is today.

    Unfortunately, I’m much more repulsed by your belief that you should dictate to employees what their health coverage should include based on your misinterpretation of the Bible.

    Too bad your bigotry and arrogance has cost you so many of your customers. Too bad you lack the self-reflection to take responsibility for the results of your bigoted statements and your attempts to run roughshod over the people you pay minimum wage to.

    I do not shop at your store anymore because of your attitude that you have the right to force your religious views on people who work for you.

    Religious bullies are still bullies, they just blame God for their bullying. That’s you, thinking you can use religion to tell people what they may or may not do.

  368. I would hate to see you close. I have spent many a dollar and hours walking around your store. I am so sorry for what the government is doing. This is what happens when a non Christian gets in control.We will be so sorry for letting our leader be in office. It is going to get worse not better if we don’t do something. Thank you for trying.

  369. I was wondering about this….Does Hobby Lobby offer contraceptives to their employees?? Many businesses do, so I googled it. They do, but are against being forced to pay for “morning after” pills. My question is — Since they DO have contraceptives for employees, why must they be FORCED to pay this? This is where I found that they will provide contraceptives: http://mm4a.org/1dI3LUj

  370. Liberals, your parents have failed. They should have had exercised their right of pro-choice and eliminated another sheep. People have a choice to work at hobby lobby or not. Hobby lobby on the other hand, is forced to comply with this bullshit insurance.

  371. Maryce, why then are certain groups/people and Congressmen (and their Staff Members) getting Exemptions! If anyone is Exempt, then Everyone should be Exempt and KILL THE LAW! If one person is required to comply, then EVERYONE SHOULD BE DORCED TO COMPLY…NO EXEMPTIONS!

  372. I am tired of Mr Green using religion to avoid paying a government mandate. So get the lawyer and stop whining.Your family has gotten rich like the Waltons with sock sales because of American people.

  373. The Constitution protects you from government not private property. A business is private property and if the owner of that private property doesn’t want to give something that is against his religious beliefs then he should not be forced to do so. As a worker you do not have a right to dictate how the business is to be ran or benefits are to be given. If you do not like the beliefs, wages or benefits then leave the company. People need to quit acting like someone else owes them something. You are not entitled to someone else’s money. The American citizen is becoming very ignorant and lacks any personal responsibility for there lives.

  374. That’s dumb. If dude is so religious, then wouldn’t he also remember that it easier for a camel to fit through an eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven? Doesn’t he also take notice to the fact that sometimes, women get raped, and they don’t want to keep that baby…ir that they aren’t financially stable enough to keep a baby, so they decide on plan b? Don’t you think he was worn a condom at some point to prevent pregnancy? Or that his holy roller wife has taken birth control to prevent their family from growing? Come on bro, get a life…

  375. All Hobby Lobby has to do is no longer offer insurance as a benefit at all and offer a stipend to employees so they go to the Obamacare marketplace and get their own private insurance. A number of companies are already doing this. There’s no reason to be so melodramatic about it. It’s better than closing up shop completely.

  376. I hate to see hobby lobby go, I shop there often for my craft needs. But, I do understand and support the owners in their decision. In essence this is a form of persecution due to religious beliefs. The owners don’t believe in aiding abortions, and refuse to be a party to it due to their beliefs, therefore they will be fined and hassled.
    If you don’t agree with their stance, no-one I’d forcing you to shop there.

  377. This letter is irresponsible and an absolute crock. They buy product for low dollar value from a country (China) that has mandatory abortions. PEOPLE are allowed to practice whatever religion they want. BUSINESSES have non-discrimination/regulatory rules they are REQUIRED to follow. Businesses are not PEOPLE and no one is requiring anyone to TAKE contraceptive medication at all.

  378. This company from Day one has worked it according to it’s beliefs and no one has complained about Sunday’s Off and I’m sure they don’t make them go to Church on Sunday and bring a note saying they did. The problem is that they elect not to cover a drug on the policy of the companies to go against the Religious beliefs of the foundation of the store-If you are hired knowing that they are a Christian based organization, close early to allow family time and Sundays they are closed for what ever worship the employees elect, then they are not directing the life style or belief on the employee but the employees will have to agree to the structure of that company and the coverage they so elect to offer! I don’t believe they should be fined or have to cut the hours of all the employees so they do not have to cover them on Insurance like so many other stores are doing-That in deed is unjust and not fair. I believe they should be able to delete the drugs they elect are not according to the stores choice since it was a elective prior and if the employee needs those drugs they can sign up for a drug plan of their own!

  379. It’s been said, “Live the way you want, but you must obey the law of the land.” The truth was spoken by St. Peter, who said, “Judge for yourselves whether we should obey God or man.” The government has erred egregiously by violating religious freedom. Some people voted for CHANGE, and that is what Socialism and its partner, Communism, are successfully accomplishing in America. Mr. Green, owner of Hobby Lobby, is living his life by faith in our Creator. He is absolutely correct; the government is absolutely wrong.

  380. Why should he pay for his employees protection from pregnancy? Pay for it yourself…or close your legs. It’s the same with Gov’t. paying for it. Why should my tax dollars pay for your stupidity? If I want to have sex with anyone and not have a baby 9 months down the road, I wrap that rascal. PAID FOR BY ME? I don’t say, “oh man, I can’t have sex because my employer doesn’t want to pay for my condoms! Poor me what am I going to do?!” PAY FOR THEM YOUR DAMN SELF!!!

  381. I think it’s high time congress pass a law which in effect removes the power of presidential order until the end of Mr. Obama’s term in office. Thereby limiting any further damage this bafoon can cause. If it can be done to a Mayor in Canada, We the People of the United States of America should be able to do it bigger and better.

  382. Maryce Ramsey, how is Mr. Green sticking with his beliefs forcing you to follow his. That is in no way what he said or is doing. He must choose God’s law over man’s. That is his belief. You can believe otherwise. Life is sacred to him and his family, and he should not be forced to compromise on that, by offering to pay for anything that ends that life, or any other thing he feels is contrary to God’s will. Where are the people that have said. We are forced to pray, at such and such a time. We are forced to attend the denomination of his choice. We are forced to believe certain doctrine. This is government or individuals in government forcing their beliefs on him. Do as we say, says the government, or we are coming after you, and we are going to make your life miserable, and force you out of business. I agree with the Green family. I would close my doors too.

  383. Stand your ground and sue the government. At least you are trying to do something to stand up for this. Christians are tired of the government telling them they have to provide

  384. First of all how the hell do birth control pills and the morning after pill cause abortion? Oh thats right, they don’t. If you are already pregnant they don’t work and will not end a pregnancy. If this issue is so important to the guy maybe he should actually know what he is talking about first. People also take birth control for medical conditions, not just pregnancy prevention.

  385. Marcy’s Ramsey, really. We are talking anout freedom here not your foolish reality that an employer has to furnish your medical proscription for abortion. He is not saying he will not have health insurance. He owes you nothing in the regard you speak of.

  386. Mr. Green has every right to practice his beliefs and to do what he thinks is right and if he doesn’t want to pay for the emergency contraception, the morning-after pill or the week-after pill he shouldn’t have to its HIS BUSINESS. He should have the ability to choose what he wants for his employes and if they don’t like it; they should quite and go find a employer that will pay for those things. The American people have lost most of their common sense.

  387. None of the drugs that Mr. Green mentions are actually abortifacients. Emergency contraception works by delaying ovulation, seeking to prevent fertilization. While it’s true that it was once thought to prevent fertilized eggs from implanting, recent medical studies (for example, this one and many others: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20399948 ) have shown that this is not the case. To reiterate: if a woman takes Plan B after she ovulates and the egg is fertilized, Plan B can do nothing to prevent that egg from implanting and starting a pregnancy.
    You may “believe” that these drugs induce abortions, Mr. Green, but the science does not support your belief, and I have a hard time believing you truly take your employees’ well-being to heart when you would rather lay thousands of them off than allow them insured access to contraceptive measures which PREVENT abortions.

  388. You’re silly if you truly think hobby lobby would close because of this.. They want more of your money.. The simple minded people who buy into this are going to shop more at their store to “support” them.. FYI.. It’s already been confirmed that they’re actually planning on opening about 40 more stores.. Because they’re a business.

  389. So if all the stores close and the business is over does that mean god ran out of grace? In the fine martyr tradition; I think it would be a better display of his faith if he kept the stores open, paid the fines levied for his refusal to comply with the law, and see how long his company lasts following his convictions rather than business principles. If they close it’s obvious that business principles pay a larger part in his management than Christian principles.ww

  390. Ok so they run their business for people not money,but they are closing because the government is fining them for not giving their employees insurance!!!what in the hell kind of ‘Christians’ are thes