HS Students Say Pledge In Arabic: ‘One Nation Under Allah’

HS Students Say Pledge In Arabic: ‘One Nation Under Allah’

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The principal at Rocky Mountain High School in Fort Collins, Colorado, is facing a hailstorm of criticism from some very angry parents and residents.

The school recites the Pledge of Allegiance weekly, on Mondays. Last Monday, a member of their “Cultural Arms Club” led the student body in an Arabic version of the pledge, replacing the words “under God” with “under Allah.”

Principal Tom Lopez denies any attempt to push an Islamic agenda, saying, “These students love this country. They were not being un-American in trying to do this. They believed they were accentuating the meaning of the words as spoken regularly in English.”

Principal Lopez doesn’t make any sense. Speaking unintelligible words in Arabic in some way accentuates their meaning? That is an extremely weak argument in defense of an ill-advised decision.

He said the cultural clubs seeks to “destroy the barriers, embrace the cultures” that exist within the high school.

That would translate into “destroy the barriers to Islam and embrace it,” correct, Mr. Lopez?

The Poudre School District communications director, Danielle Clark, said they understand why parents are upset. She told Fox News, “We understand not everybody would agree with the students’ choice. We’ve heard there are some who are upset.”

Let’s put his into perspective for the feeble-minded Clark and Lopez. It is not the student’s choice. They do not control the public address system. It was a school choice.

Her simplistic defense included a reference to “one” supportive email and a reference to a similar mistake last year which drew controversy when the pledge was recited in Spanish. Somehow not learning from and expanding upon your previous mistakes is perceived as a viable defense for these educators.

An abdication of responsibility is also part of their defense. Clark attempted to pass the buck of responsibility to the students, saying, “This is a student-initiated and student-led club. There is no school sponsor or advisor. It doesn’t come under the umbrella of the district.”

Actually, the activity of reciting the pledge does come under the district. Choosing to put it into the hands of a group not regulated by their administrators does not provide absolution.

“We deferred to the students because it’s their deal,” she said.

One cultural club member, professing to not understand the controversy is Skyler Bowden. Bowden simplistically told The Coloradoan, “No matter what language it’s said in, pledging your allegiance to the United States is the same in every language.”

Given their youth, the high school students might understandably not recognize the problems with proclaiming America as “one nation under Allah.” The grownups should and they ought to be controlling the activity.

The Muslim Brotherhood front group CAIR chimed in saying, “Obviously in Arabic, you would use the word Allah, but Christian Arabs would use the word Allah.” Their spokesperson, Ibrahim Hooper, claimed use of the word Allah is “not necessarily specific to Islam and Muslims.” From an American point of view, it is, whether he is technically correct or not, to Americans, in America, it’s a specific Muslim and Islamic reference.

As if to reinforce the idiocy of reciting the pledge in another language, Clark said she did not hear the pledge and does not speak Arabic so she could not confirm exactly what words were used.

Lopez said he has been getting a variety of accusations leveled at him, including being called a traitor. He said, “They claim they are outraged, that this is blaspheming a real major tenet of our patriotism – which in their mind the Pledge of Allegiance is only in English.”

He said he’s also been accused of “pushing a Muslim Brotherhood agenda – to push Islam into the school.” He denies that was behind the decision.

CAIR representative Hooper told Fox News he was dumbfounded by complaints about the Arabic version of the pledge.

“How on earth is it un-American to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in another language,” Hooper asked. “It doesn’t make sense unless the people complaining are anti-Muslim or anti-middle eastern bigots.”

It just might be that Americans recognize the Islamic agenda, Mr. Hooper, and are tired of having it forced upon them. Maybe we know what you are up to and people are pushing back.

Principal Lopez said all of the criticism and complaints had him “worn down.”

Playing the tolerance card, Lopez labeled himself as the victim, stating, “I’ve been shocked with prejudicial statements that have been made. I’ve been shocked with the lack of seeking understanding. There’s definitely suspicion and fear expressed in these people’s minds. There’s some hate.”

One resident, Chris Wells put it in terms even educator Lopez could understand. Writing in The Daily Coloradoan, he said, “As a veteran and a friend of a man killed defending these children in their little games they like to play with our pledge, I’m offended. There are things that we don’t mess with – among them are the pledge and our anthem.”

Rick Wells is a conservative author who believes an adherence the U.S. Constitution would solve many of today’s problems. “Like” him on Facebook and “Follow” him on Twitter.

928 COMMENTS

  1. This is incredibly dangerous and deceitful. Allah is specific to Islam. Allah is not the God worshiped in Judaism and Christianity. A Muslim is someone who says ” There is no god but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger “. You people are being played for fools.

  2. Same God no matter what the name. That said, this is America, let’s be proud of that and keep our traditions our own just like it seems every other country on the planet strives to do. You don’t see the Chinese, Japanese, the French or Germans doing this; certainly not the Arab nations. Our country is great because those who emigrated here wanted to assimilate into a free society. Individual traditions were kept safe right along with their willingness to become an American. Let’s stop trying to accommodate, which ultimately weakens the newly arrived. Assimilation has much more upside for those already here and those who haven’t arrived yet.

  3. Dan Larrivee lol at typical protestant chest beating. Yes Catholics read the bible. All of it. Including the parts diametrically opposed to the extra-biblical doctrines of Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide which protestants rely on to give their hundreds and perhaps thousands of religions and belief systems some foundation which would not otherwise exist.

  4. You canot put the God of Creation in the same sentence w Allah. Allah is worshiping a false God, Deuteronomy 6:14
    Do not follow other gods, the gods of the peoples around you one of many vs on this in Scripture. Having a different name for your god does not change the facts

  5. Not a fan but no matter what language they say it in at least they were pledging their "allegiance" to the US flag…if they even know what it means, much like the evil catholic cult lying to kids about what taking communion means, I doubt they know.

  6. I'm so sick of this Muslim shit! We are a Judeo-Christian Society, and all of our laws are based on the ten commandments which are recognized by Jews and Christians. Let's see how fast Arabic schools accommodate Jews and Christians and recite anything in Hebrew or English! Give me a friggin' break already. Didn't they teach any of you geniuses a thing in school? Ya know…Islam will rule the world? Idiots!

  7. Lee Joseph Mitchell – A CHRISTIAN prays to CHRIST – ya know, JESUS? Your post is one of the most moronic I've ever seen in my life!

  8. Betty Roberts german immigrants have shaped a lot of the US. The US changed because of them regardless of what your great grand parents did. Consider the impact the next time you put up an Xmas tree. As to your mother's husband I suspect you need to apologise and work on your emapthy a bit

  9. Freddie Jhon Awon – YOU get educated. Allah's messenger is Mohammed. Christianity's messenger is Jesus, and Judaism's messenger is Moses. Huge differences here!

  10. are not young girls being kidnapped and married off to Muslim extremists as we speak in Africa? There is a wave of fighting going on right now on that land. Don't see as much outrage of that as much as the Muslim world having a cow over South Park airing Muhammad as part as a Super Friends episode

  11. Merrilee Slaton Everyone needs to calm down and use some logic here. Which came first, Christianity or Islam? Obviously Christianity. Arabic was spoken in the area at the times of early Christianity. Therefore the word "Allah" came before Islam. What are you going to argue now, that the Christians who existed before Islam ever did, were worshiping the God of Islam?

    Arab Christians are dying right now, as you read this, being tortured by Muslims for their love of Christ, and refusal to convert. These Christians make a true sacrifice, and use the word Allah, if they speak Arabic. Do you think Christ will judge you kindly for denigrating those who died in his name?

  12. Then there is the question of Sharia Law, which well over 80% of Muslims favor making the official law of the land. Decidedly non-Western values like legalized slavery and second-class citizen status for non-Muslims would soon follow. Iraq recently showed what happens when you base a modern legal system on 7th century values – the Iraqi parliament is considering a bill that would legalize marriage for 9 year olds, prevent women from leaving the house without their husband’s consent, and permit marital rape, practices that most folk in the heartland of America would likely find not so moderate.

    American Muslims might not be jumping on the child rape bandwagon, but neither are they immune from radical morals and values. A 2012 WND survey found that 46% of American Muslims agreed that those who “criticize or parody Islam in the U.S. should face criminal charges”, which kind of negates the First Amendment and quite a few other fundamental rights that most non-Muslim Americans hold dear.

    No wonder there is no mass movement in the Muslim community to stand up against brutality against women or minorities. No wonder there is no unified Islamic voice speaking out for moderation in these troubled times. When the majority of a community supports principles that actively oppose freedom and call for wholesale violence against their fellow man, then that community can hardly be considered moderate.

  13. How many times have we heard the same old tired line, that only an infinitesimally small, almost imperceptible number of Muslims are radicalized? You know the story: a couple of young men cut the head off of a soldier in middle of a busy street yelling “Allahu Akbar” is followed by a litany of Islamic apologists on the airwaves claiming that the majority of Muslims are quite moderate and would never, ever condone such actions. Sounds great, but is it true? Short answer: Not even close.

    The truth is the majority of Islamists are far more radical than what most Americans can appreciate. Take the question of apostates; those who leave Islam for another religion. According to the Koran the penalty is death. No negotiation, no compromise, just take the poor victim out back and cut off his head. The vast majority of Americans would consider such a penalty for switching religions a bit extreme, but according to a 2013 Pew Research Survey over 50% of Islamists in the Middle East and South Asia view beheading as an appropriate punishment for turning your back on Allah.

    Then there’s the question of punishment for female adulterers, which according to Islam is death by stoning, a view that is once again shared by over 50% of Islamists in the Middle East and North Africa. No wonder Islamic fathers and brothers have a tendency to murder their daughters and sisters when they “dishonor” their family – they’re just following the example set for them by the Koran. Abu Azmi, a leader in the Indian Socialist Party and practicing Islamist, went even further by suggesting that female victims of rape should “be hanged” because they engaged in “sex” outside of marriage, a not at all unusual opinion in the Muslim world.

    So while millions upon millions of Muslims are calling for the violent death of their neighbors who find Christ or are smitten with love, what do they think about actual dyed-in-the-wool terrorism? Here is where things get interesting. Rather than a majority getting behind bus bombings and school bloodbaths, the support for terrorist attacks against civilian targets drops to 20% or less in most Muslim communities, which is still around 250 million people worldwide openly applauding heinous crimes against their fellow man, a gigantic, mind-numbing number, but also likely means that 1 in 4 of them are lying. If you’re going to support murdering your next door neighbor for converting to Christianity or stoning your daughter to death for having a boyfriend, what could you possibly care about a bus full of Brits getting blown to hell in London?

  14. They should also force the students to wear burqas , hang the gays, and stone a woman or two just like they would do in the Islamic world.

    If a student is caught stealing, chop off a hand.

    Hey, since they want to claim this is about cultural knowledge and whatnot, why not partake in that?

  15. Great way to fuc$ up a country, they're taking control of the kids..
    That way they don't NEED to force an agenda, 'cause the kids see it as "normal"

  16. Methinks the xian rabble protesteth way too much! The solution is simple. Remove the reference to god from the pledge ( and also currency while at it)! Why on earth would a modern country pledge anything to a mythical deity? It is an affront to non-xians and atheists.
    It is time to bring you xians kicking and screaming into the modern era, YOU are NOT living in the bronze age and you do not have the evil power you had in the dark ages!

  17. BURN them at the stake unless they recant their evil language and evil beliefs. We xians KNOW we are right just as we knew in the dark ages when we had to kill millions of heathens for god-a-mighty

  18. Lee Joseph Mitchell We pledge allegiance TO America, one nation under God, not under a devil called allah.

  19. The entire concept of "embracing cultures" is ludicrous; it serves to divide, not to unite. We should celebrate being Americans, not Christians, Jews, Muslims, or whatever. If you want to keep you culture at home, more power to you. But "cultures" have no place in public institutions.

  20. This is a national emergency. We must round these people up and put them in camps until their minds are devoid of anything but god-a-mighty. The NEXT thing we know they will be saying "one nation under Zeus", or " one nation under Venus" or god forbid Amun: Anubis: Aten: Atum: Bastet: Bes: Geb. Xianity must be preserved at allcost sand the heathen must be dealt with severely. We need to make an example of them.
    Save yourself NOW. Go to landoverbaptist~dot~org and find god.

  21. But, if a kid wears an NRA shirt or flies a Confederate flag, they are suspended!!! We will take our Country back, Patriots!!!

  22. Are you freekin kidding me? This has gone way too far under the fraud from Kenya destroying America. It's time for the next Revolution, and i don't mean at the corrupt polls. I mean an armed take back of our country.

  23. Zhou Sei You are a bald faced liar and idiot. "Anti-Jesus religion"? So christians are anti the one they admittedly worship???

  24. Larry Miller and if they speak french that word is dieu, if they speak spanish that word is dios and if they speak arabic that word is allah.

  25. why would students even go along with this stupid idea? they will become their "lambs to the slaughter" parents. This is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA where we say the Pledge of Allegiance in English. If these high school administrators wish to promote islam then they need to move to egypt or africa somewhere…..

  26. Another example on the decay of this country and anyone that has the gall to explain what was occurring as accentuating the meanings of the words?? WTF. Where was this goof educated and why is he in charge of our schools system. We need to flush the turds out of our educational system (HS and College) and educate our students properly. What would happen if I started reciting the Pledge of Allegiance on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. I am sure it would create an international incident, not to mention being stoned or worse. The World is quite polar and it appears that anyone can trample on the USA and its values, but dare disrespect of Muslim or say something about Mohammed or Allah and all HELL breaks-loose.

  27. Muslim . Allah is a pagan moon goddess and Muhammed was a murderous, thieving butcher, charlatan, liar, hypocrite, pedophile who claimed to be possessed by demons. He never made a SINGLE prophecy.

    God IS great but the demon named Allah that you worship is NOT God. You also worship a pedophile and raider who robbed caravans, murdered the men by beheading them or cutting their hands and feet off, raped the women and hired assassins to murder anyone who didn't believe his blasphemies. He was an absolute hypocrite and fraud and is burning in Hell forever for worshipping the demon, Allah.

  28. amen to that when we go their country they don't speak a single English we need to protest this or boycott that school

    • Apparently, you don’t speak a single English either. There is no national language in this country. There is no national religion in this country. The students aren’t even required to recite the pledge in the first place. This article only serves to get people who are already psychologically imbalanced to tip over the edge.

  29. When you are sworn in as a new citizen of the US, the oath of allegiance is said aloud:

    "I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

  30. Lee Joseph Mitchell Define Natural Born Citizen. Let me guess, you were born here, correct? However, any idiot with a brain knows that natural-born would mean born from NATURALIZED citizens – meaning those that were originally born from citizens of this country or who had gone through the naturalization process. It does not mean that people can come from just about anywhere and dump out their spawn on American soil, as it is currently being misinterpreted as. In other words, eventually it will mean what it's supposed to mean – you don't just come here from another country, squeak out your spawn and the spawn is automatically a citizen. No more anchor babies. The world NATURAL precedes born, and born precedes citizen for a REASON!

  31. No, no, no, don't buy into that whole "Judaism, Islam, and Christianity share a common root" thing! Allah is the false god worshipped by brown people!

  32. What people seem to be forgetting, is that "Under God" wasn't even added to the pledge until the 50's. Also, if you read a book or two, you'd also know that the Pledge was written by a SOCIALIST and published in a Children's magazine to drum up interest in Flag Day. Seriously, all the people bashing Obama for being a socialist are a bit hypocritical if they follow a pledge written in 1892 by a socialist.

  33. I would disagree to a point. 'One nation under God' should be allowed in the Pledge … for those who wish to say it. For those who don't want to say it don't have to. If you don't want to say is don't do it and don't try to force others to sacrafice their religion for you … and vice versa.

  34. in a nation where we have specifically set out to separate church from government, why is this an issue? i think it should be encouraged to enforce a multicultural view of the world and our nation. afterall, we are the great melting pot.

    to prevent further debate, why not just remove "god" from the our PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
    i'm not christian, why should i devote myself an entity i don't identify with or believe in?
    i mean, what's wrong with just saying "one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all?"

  35. Muslim . Well I will pray for your soul that you will learn your error and come to Jehovah and know the one true God. You might want to learn about the Holy Bible. Just start with the old Testament or Torah. Try First Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear O' Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one." and "It is the blood that makes atonement for the soul" Leviticus 17:11, Try Psalm 1:1-2 "Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor stands in the path of sinners, nor sits in the seat of the SCORNFUL; but his delight is in the law of the LORD, and in His law he meditates day and night." Micah 6:8 "He has shown you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk HUMBLY with your God." In Isaiah 63 The prophet Isaiah refers to God as Father (Abba), the Messiah (Moshiach), and the Holy Spirit (Ruach HaKodesh) in his grand statements. Your "god" is not the "Covenant God of Abraham" YHWH is and He most certainly is not associated with anyone that would worship a moon god who requires the type of heathen uncivilized violence that you have been taught. As I said in one of my previous posts I will not be replying to most of the remarks on here because I am currently working on two Master's degrees and raising my grandchild.

  36. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  37. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  38. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  39. Multiculturalism has NEVER succeeded Mr. Geiter, throughout historical precedent when a culture begins deviating from its course and allows multi-faceted schisms it always fails.

  40. The pledge was written by a marxist. Under God was inserted to fix the marxist nature of the pledge.

  41. Vic Santana Generally, they are. Maybe only one in 10 Christians even begin to understand the spiritual issues Jesus addressed. It's a lot more complicated than singing a few hosannas.

  42. http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel06-2.html

    It is no exaggeration to say that on Sundays in Washington during the administrations of Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) and of James Madison (1809-1817) the state became the church. Within a year of his inauguration, Jefferson began attending church services in the House of Representatives. Madison followed Jefferson's example, although unlike Jefferson, who rode on horseback to church in the Capitol, Madison came in a coach and four. Worship services in the House–a practice that continued until after the Civil War–were acceptable to Jefferson because they were nondiscriminatory and voluntary. Preachers of every Protestant denomination appeared. (Catholic priests began officiating in 1826.) As early as January 1806 a female evangelist, Dorothy Ripley, delivered a camp meeting-style exhortation in the House to Jefferson, Vice President Aaron Burr, and a "crowded audience." Throughout his administration Jefferson permitted church services in executive branch buildings. The Gospel was also preached in the Supreme Court chambers.

  43. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  44. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  45. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  46. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  47. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  48. Jeffrey Mark Bruce

    Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  49. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  50. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  51. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  52. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  53. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  54. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  55. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  56. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  57. Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  58. Russell Beach You know his name wasn't really Jesus Christ, right? First, Christ is a title, not his name. Also, his name was translated about a dozen times. So when people get pissy about people taking his name in vain, they should realize that neither Jesus nor Christ was actually his name (if he even existed).

  59. As the US is a secular nation (according to the Constitution). What difference does it make if they use God,Allah,Yahway, Thor, Oden, FSM. It makes no difference. From reading the article it was to expose the students to the melting pot that is the US. There are differences and the language issue is another thing. If it was said in German/Chinese/Latin/Klingon would that really change any meaning to the pledge. The answer is NO. The word for GOD would also change based on the language.

  60. It's the same point, Brad. This is you reaping what you sow. Since you all demand that "God" be kept in the Pledge, when it is translated into Arabic, "God" becomes "Allah".

    Suddenly you're not a huge fan of having a mention of a deity in there? Welcome to our world.

  61. No the princiPAL isn't doing anything. This is a voluntary, extracurricular club that explores other cultures by doing things like learning how to say the Pledge in different languages. "God" translates to "Allah" in Arabic, just like it translates to "Dio" in Spanish. Speaking Arabic has NOTHING to do with being Muslim. There are plenty of Muslims who don't speak Arabic, and plenty of Arabic-speakers who aren't Muslim. That is just as dumb as saying that all English speakers are Christians or vice-versa.

    If people are pledging allegiance to the United States, what should it matter the language they are using?

  62. Erick Johnson, yes, they do. Yahweh is the god of both the Bible and Qur'an, Christians and Muslims simply disagree on what transpired.

    Of course, all of it is mythological nonsense, but go on fighting about it.

  63. Since when does speaking Arabic make one a Muslim?

    Since when does the US have an official language?

    Since when does reciting a nationalistic mantra with inserted Cold War propaganda make one a "true American"?

  64. 1. Since when does speaking Arabic make you Muslim?

    2. We are not a "Judeo-Christian society". Over half of the Ten Commandments aren't even laws in the United States. Besides, you might want to check out the ACTUAL Ten Commandments in Exodus 34.

  65. Prototype Atheist

    "separation of church and state"
    Not in the Constitution. As much as you want Atheism to be the official Federal State Religion, that's illegal as well.

    I think you would be more comfortable with the Soviet Constitution.

  66. Actually, they're technically the same deity, Yahweh. Christians and Muslims simply disagree on how things went down, kinda like how Jews and Christians disagree.

    In the end, none of it is true, but continue fighting about it.

  67. The Aramaic word for "God" in the language of Assyrian Christians is ʼĔlāhā, or Alaha. Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word "Allah" to mean "God".[

  68. What does this have to do with Muslims? Speaking Arabic doesn't make you a Muslim. Using the Arabic word for "god" doesn't make you a Muslim.

    Do you realize that Bibles that are printed in Arabic refer to Yahweh as "Allah"?

  69. Erick Johnson False. The Pledge was written by a socialist who was also a Christian pastor. It was originally written for the purpose of selling flags to celebrate the 400th anniversary of Columbus "discovering" America.

    "Under God" was added in the 1950s McCarthyism era as propaganda against "godless Communism". Same with "In God We Trust".

  70. Actually, they have recited the Pledge in Spanish before, but you don't hear about it because it won't whip you nutjobs into a frenzy over the translation for the word "God". They've probably done other languages, too.

    The US has no official language. Period.

  71. Erick Johnson So what? That was 250 years ago, before the information age, before genetics and evolution and modern astrophysics. Most people back then simply believed in a god. Now, there's many reasons not to.

  72. Prototype Atheist What? I agree this country is to divided among cultural, political and religious boundaries and I'm a xenophobe. Really?

  73. Prototype Atheist

    Socialist/marxist, distinction without a difference.

    The Pledge is godless "socialist" propaganda in the first place. He wasn't a Christian at all. "Socialists" had long been perverting the Gospel towards godless ends. Hijacking Churches is a "socialist" specialty because most people don't bother to read the Gospel themselves.

  74. Prototype Atheist

    Socialist/marxist, distinction without a difference.

    The Pledge is godless "socialist" propaganda in the first place. He wasn't a Christian at all. "Socialists" had long been perverting the Gospel towards godless ends. Hijacking Churches is a "socialist" specialty because most people don't bother to read the Gospel themselves.

  75. Erick Johnson Where did I state it is in the Constitution? Nowhere. However, when discussing the First Amendment, Jefferson made the intent clear from his perspective. In addition, the courts have already set plenty of precedent on this topic, and it doesn't agree with your opinion.

    I never said I wanted atheism imposed on anyone. First, atheism isn't a religion, it is the rejection of the god hypothesis. Secularism isn't atheism, it is apathy to religion on the part of the state. Hopefully that clears up your ignorance.

    Judging by all of the Christian love for Putin's warmongering and gay hatred, I think it would probably be you who would more closely align with Russian policies.

  76. Trisha Turk You "really agree with" Rich that "cultures have no place in public institutions"? Yes, that is quite xenophobic. Additionally, Christian culture is pervasive in our public institutions. Do you agree those should be left at home, too?

  77. Erick Johnson There is only one God, And for me to believe with all my heart that God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) is right, then I must believe every religion that refuses to believe in the God I accept, is wrong. Islam rejects that Jesus was the Son of God.

  78. Erick Johnson Of course someone whose only understanding of the terms comes from right-wing propaganda would consider them to be the same thing.

    The United States has many socialist aspects. There's nothing wrong with that. We aren't advocating for full socialism, but rather a mix of social democracy and capitalism.

    Atheists vary wildly in the political ideologies. To equate atheism with socialism is to display your ignorance on the topics.

    I have read the entire Bible, thanks. Have you? Because it doesn't exactly tell a consistent story.

    https://www.facebook.com/prototypeatheist/photos/pb.1428256320738367.-2207520000.1398957013./1448304895400176/?type=3&theater

  79. Erick Johnson Of course someone whose only understanding of the terms comes from right-wing propaganda would consider them to be the same thing.

    The United States has many socialist aspects. There's nothing wrong with that. We aren't advocating for full socialism, but rather a mix of social democracy and capitalism.

    Atheists vary wildly in the political ideologies. To equate atheism with socialism is to display your ignorance on the topics.

    I have read the entire Bible, thanks. Have you? Because it doesn't exactly tell a consistent story.

    https://www.facebook.com/prototypeatheist/photos/pb.1428256320738367.-2207520000.1398957013./1448304895400176/?type=3&theater

  80. While what you say is correct, this doesn't even have anything to do with Islam. The multicultural club was simply reciting the Pledge in Arabic, including the proper translation of "God" to "Allah". Speaking Arabic doesn't make you a Muslim, especially if you don't even speak Arabic, but only learned how to recite the Pledge in Arabic.

  81. Prototype Atheist

    Enjoy factual history.

    http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel06-2.html

    It is no exaggeration to say that on Sundays in Washington during the administrations of Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) and of James Madison (1809-1817) the state became the church. Within a year of his inauguration, Jefferson began attending church services in the House of Representatives. Madison followed Jefferson's example, although unlike Jefferson, who rode on horseback to church in the Capitol, Madison came in a coach and four. Worship services in the House–a practice that continued until after the Civil War–were acceptable to Jefferson because they were nondiscriminatory and voluntary. Preachers of every Protestant denomination appeared. (Catholic priests began officiating in 1826.) As early as January 1806 a female evangelist, Dorothy Ripley, delivered a camp meeting-style exhortation in the House to Jefferson, Vice President Aaron Burr, and a "crowded audience." Throughout his administration Jefferson permitted church services in executive branch buildings. The Gospel was also preached in the Supreme Court chambers.

    Jefferson's actions may seem surprising because his attitude toward the relation between religion and government is usually thought to have been embodied in his recommendation that there exist "a wall of separation between church and state." In that statement, Jefferson was apparently declaring his opposition, as Madison had done in introducing the Bill of Rights, to a "national" religion. In attending church services on public property, Jefferson and Madison consciously and deliberately were offering symbolic support to religion as a prop for republican government.

  82. The inclusion of God in the pledge of allegiance is in and of itself a violation of the basic separation of church and state. I don't give a flying fudge what name they give God; saying that the nation (with all its agnostics, atheists, polytheists, and other nonbelievers in Abrahamic religon) is "under God" blatantly contradicts the idea that religion is an entity wholly independent from the state.

    The United States is not by any means a Christian nation, nor has it ever been. I know it is fashionable at the moment to view Islam as a dangerous and encroaching menace to our freedom, but seriously people. They said the word "God" in a different language. God. Dios. Nkos. Jehova. Allah. Different words for the same idea.

    Good on the high school for trying to be multicultural, but the discussion seriously needs to be had on why we swear our blind allegiance to a scrap of cloth that has some serious blood on it.

  83. The inclusion of God in the pledge of allegiance is in and of itself a violation of the basic separation of church and state. I don't give a flying fudge what name they give God; saying that the nation (with all its agnostics, atheists, polytheists, and other nonbelievers in Abrahamic religon) is "under God" blatantly contradicts the idea that religion is an entity wholly independent from the state.

    The United States is not by any means a Christian nation, nor has it ever been. I know it is fashionable at the moment to view Islam as a dangerous and encroaching menace to our freedom, but seriously people. They said the word "God" in a different language. God. Dios. Nkos. Jehova. Allah. Different words for the same idea.

    Good on the high school for trying to be multicultural, but the discussion seriously needs to be had on why we swear our blind allegiance to a scrap of cloth that has some serious blood on it.

  84. Projection seems to be a required trait among the religious fundamentalist. Useful idiots are those who will believe the first thing that they're told and donate their money to defend it.

  85. Erick Johnson Enjoy clinging to ancient mythology and fighting against judicial precedent.

    How would you feel if Islam became the dominant religion in the US a few decades from now, and they imposed their beliefs onto you?

    That's what I thought. Keep your mythology out of our lives.

  86. Erick Johnson Enjoy clinging to ancient mythology and fighting against judicial precedent.

    How would you feel if Islam became the dominant religion in the US a few decades from now, and they imposed their beliefs onto you?

    That's what I thought. Keep your mythology out of our lives.

  87. Erick Johnson Enjoy clinging to ancient mythology and fighting against judicial precedent.

    How would you feel if Islam became the dominant religion in the US a few decades from now, and they imposed their beliefs onto you?

    That's what I thought. Keep your mythology out of our lives.

  88. Owen McLaughlin

    Enjoy factual history

    http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel06-2.html
    It is no exaggeration to say that on Sundays in Washington during the administrations of Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) and of James Madison (1809-1817) the state became the church. Within a year of his inauguration, Jefferson began attending church services in the House of Representatives. Madison followed Jefferson's example, although unlike Jefferson, who rode on horseback to church in the Capitol, Madison came in a coach and four. Worship services in the House–a practice that continued until after the Civil War–were acceptable to Jefferson because they were nondiscriminatory and voluntary. Preachers of every Protestant denomination appeared. (Catholic priests began officiating in 1826.) As early as January 1806 a female evangelist, Dorothy Ripley, delivered a camp meeting-style exhortation in the House to Jefferson, Vice President Aaron Burr, and a "crowded audience." Throughout his administration Jefferson permitted church services in executive branch buildings. The Gospel was also preached in the Supreme Court chambers.

    Jefferson's actions may seem surprising because his attitude toward the relation between religion and government is usually thought to have been embodied in his recommendation that there exist "a wall of separation between church and state." In that statement, Jefferson was apparently declaring his opposition, as Madison had done in introducing the Bill of Rights, to a "national" religion. In attending church services on public property, Jefferson and Madison consciously and deliberately were offering symbolic support to religion as a prop for republican government.

  89. Prototype Atheist

    Judicial precedent is a tool for end runs around Article V proper changes to the Constitution. Bench law is an affront to the Founders creation.
    http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/12/common-law-and-constitutional-law-a-response/

    You are a simpleton religious atheist that just wants to ignore history and culture.

    Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

    Since the Bible declares that Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), the question must be raised: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

  90. Erick Johnson Not so much, Erick. You are a cognitively-dissonant charlatan relying upon fallacious argument from tradition in an attempt to force your beliefs onto others.

    I notice how you completely deflected from my question regarding Islam taking control by quoting a couple of books of mythology.

    Your religion is irrational. It is demonstrably false. Yahweh was the Canaanite god of war whom the Israelites adopted for sole worship to justify their conquests. This is why he says "WE shall make man in OUR image" and "You shall have no other gods BEFORE ME", and why he orders the destruction of those who worship other Canaanite gods, like Baal.

    Try reading Exodus 34 for the REAL Ten Commandments or Numbers 31:17-18 for an example of why your god is evil.

    Try reading the gospels horizontally to realize why they are bullshit.
    https://www.facebook.com/prototypeatheist/photos/pb.1428256320738367.-2207520000.1398957919./1448304895400176/?type=3&theater

    Try explaining how it makes sense that humans have existed for at least 100,000 years, yet your god only shows up 6,000 years ago, interacts with only a small tribal culture in the Middle East (even though the Earth is mostly populated by this point) for 4,000 years, then disappears completely for 2,000 years.

    Try explaining why zygotes or fetuses who perish go directly to heaven while those of us who live have to jump through hoops for the same reward. Try explaining why murderers and rapists can get to heaven by accepting Jesus, but decent and loving atheists are punished forever.

    Good luck ruminating on that.

  91. This is what can happen when you allow religion to be the law of the land. Which religion will be at the forefront? There's THOUSANDS. You fools can't even make up your mind then wanna criticize nonbelievers? KEEP "god" IN YOUR HOMES AND CHURCHES

  92. This is what can happen when you allow religion to be the law of the land. Which religion will be at the forefront? There's THOUSANDS. You fools can't even make up your mind then wanna criticize nonbelievers? KEEP "god" IN YOUR HOMES AND CHURCHES

  93. Wrong. If you want to say some people that call themselves Christians don't comport themselves correctly, fine. But NO Christian is "anti-Jesus".

  94. Prototype Atheist

    silly religious atheist. You will look for any excuse to ignore the message Jesus taught.

    http://www.angelfire.com/co/JeffersonBible/
    Thomas Jefferson believed that the ethical system of Jesus was the finest the world has ever seen. In compiling what has come to be called "The Jefferson Bible," he sought to separate those ethical teachings from the religious dogma and other supernatural elements that are intermixed in the account provided by the four Gospels. He presented these teachings, along with the essential events of the life of Jesus, in one continuous narrative.

  95. Nathan Marcy You've just jumped the shark w/ yr lies and hypocrisy. Anyone who claims Jesus didn't exist is a blatant liar. There is more evidence to support his existence than there is for Plato, or Aristotle but you don't question their existence. If you don't believe He was the son of God, that's a whole different animal. But you've just established that you have zero credibility.

  96. Prototype Atheist Absolutely religion needs to stay at home! Xenophobia: unreasonably fearful of or hating anyone or anything foreign or strange. I do not fear or hate these cultures. But why move here if all they wanted to do was change this country into their country of origin? Why doesn't anyone want to be an American anymore? When my ancestors immigrated from Germany all they wanted to be was Americans. They learned the language and history and became U.S. citizens. It was important to them to be called Americans. Now you're an African-American, Moslem-American, Spanish American. My great Grandparents never thought of themselves as German-American. America is a hodgepodge of cultures mixed together to become a unique Country. Not a bunch of ingredients left on the counter top, separated, to just sit there and never become a great stew.

  97. The actions of the executive do not the laws of the country make. Even if presidents did combine the church and state informally, the Constitution explicitly states that the government and church must be separate entities.

  98. The actions of the executive do not the laws of the country make. Even if presidents did combine the church and state informally, the Constitution explicitly states that the government and church must be separate entities.

  99. Trisha Turk You're simply doing the same thing that past Americans have done. When the Irish first came here, it was the same thing. When Germans came here, same thing. When the Japanese came, same thing. Now it's just hispanics and Muslims who are the targets.

    You have to give people time. It takes a couple generations for people to assimilate, especially if they speak a different language or have different traditions.We live in the only country in the world that is comprised completely of people from other countries. There's nothing wrong with recognizing your heritage while still being a part of something greater.

  100. Larry Lynn So what? Yahweh is the god of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Same guy, everyone just disagrees about the events.

    Of course, they're all invented, so it really doesn't matter.

  101. Prototype Atheist

    I like how you ignore that the Constitution is based on the concept of Natural Rights. Enjoy your government god.

  102. Owen McLaughlin

    "explicitly states that the government and church must be separate entities"

    If you ignore the Free Exercise clause.

  103. Owen McLaughlin

    "explicitly states that the government and church must be separate entities"

    If you ignore the Free Exercise clause.

  104. Owen McLaughlin

    "explicitly states that the government and church must be separate entities"

    If you ignore the Free Exercise clause.

  105. Erick Johnson Keep deflecting and clinging to that cognitive dissonance. You can't base something upon something that doesn't exist.

    Feel free to address any of the points I made about your religion at any time. There's no point in arguing the tradition of our country if the tradition is based on a complete fallacy.

  106. Erick Johnson Keep deflecting and clinging to that cognitive dissonance. You can't base something upon something that doesn't exist.

    Feel free to address any of the points I made about your religion at any time. There's no point in arguing the tradition of our country if the tradition is based on a complete fallacy.

  107. Vic Santana No contemporary historians mention him. Not until more than 80 years later does mention of him begin. If Jesus really did the things the bible says he did, the historians who provided us the history of the Roman Empire, several of whom LIVED in Jerusalem, would have written about it.

    Now, since none of them mention him, and the mentions of him greatly increase after the 3rd to 4th century CE (correlating with Christian massacres mentioned in the book of Joshua and the beginning of Christian stewardship of history), it's far more likely to conclude that Jesus was a myth and one that was repeated time and time again until it became like fact. Since Christians had killed historians who denied Jesus and burned whole libraries of ancient history to the ground, no one could challenge it.

  108. Charles Bilberry Shouldnt be saying Jesus either. Hallelu-Yah = Praise be to God. We are all being hoodwinked out of our salvation.

  109. Lee Joseph Mitchell We dont need to change it, we need to disband the government and reestablish one that is in our interest and favor, not internationalist and globalist who manipulate all of us at every turn where given a chance.

  110. Prototype Atheist It didn't take "a couple generations" for my great grandparents to assimilate, they wanted to be here and they were ready and willing to change. Once my great Grandfather learned English he banned the speaking of German so that his children wouldn't be hobbled in their day to day lives by still speaking German. What is it that I'm doing "that past Americans have done" exactly? Ask these people to become Americans? Who pushed my ancestors to assimilate and become integrated Americans? Other immigrants that's who. We do not do today's immigrants a favor by giving them a couple of generations to integrate, this is what is causing the divisions and divisiveness today.

  111. Lee Joseph Mitchell lol he works for the government and is attempting to get other people to take a moderate view, basically because this entire thing is coming down now that we all see that they have all been playing us against ourselves while they laugh all the way to the bank. They may have guillotines, but we are not going to put our heads in them willingly. Next they will say, hey, its okay, its moderate, let your 9 year old decide if she wants to have sex with my 50 year old son… Sick world they are trying to create.

  112. Owen McLaughlin Don't even bother with Erick. He simply presents his fallacious arguments while ignoring yours. I listed him a litany of problems with his beliefs and instead of addressing any of them, he sourced an article from InfoWars accusing me of being a Communist.

  113. They are the new Jew…. Gotta keep making white people feel guilty or we take over the world again lol.

  114. Lee Joseph Mitchell I dont need to speak your language unless I come to your country looking for goods/services, otherwise I dont even care if you exist.

  115. Muslim . Why are you so full of hate? Do you think God approves of this hate you have for others? This same hate is what caused Cain to kill Able. God is love.

  116. Lee Joseph Mitchell No Christian prays to Allah.
    Your profile appears to be something a little child might do.

  117. Lee Joseph Mitchell You have no idea what you're talking about. Go ahead and be naive. See what happens to your future.

  118. Maybe the Principal can get Boy George to demonstrate some of the cross-generational love these "Culture Club" types want to endorse. Maybe do it in Arabic…because I guess if you're Muslim its perfectly normal for an adult to marry a seven year old girl. Sick fking bastards, the whole lot of them.

  119. Maybe the Principal can get Boy George to demonstrate some of the cross-generational love these "Culture Club" types want to endorse. Maybe do it in Arabic…because I guess if you're Muslim its perfectly normal for an adult to marry a seven year old girl. Sick fking bastards, the whole lot of them.

  120. Re: " “As a veteran and a friend of a man killed defending these children in their little games they like to play with our pledge, I’m offended."

    Well if we had not started playing games with the pledge in the first place by adding the words, "Under God" we wouldn't be having this discussion.

  121. Craig mawson…..my son, uncles, neices, nephews and grand father has served this country for you to spew garbage. You know nothing about. Just because I don't want the pledge of allgiance changed, I am still entitled to have an opinion. I have p lenty of empathy except towards jerks. And for your information I have learned more at Kaplan than I did at Ivy Tech a state college. So pls have a good day and thank a soldier for your right to b a moron!!

  122. Let's see…lee Joseph Mitchell go back under the rock Allah created for you and have your mother crush it. If your father really is a US marine I bet he is really proud of your idiotic sarcasm.

  123. Let's see…lee Joseph Mitchell go back under the rock Allah created for you and have your mother crush it. If your father really is a US marine I bet he is really proud of your idiotic sarcasm.

  124. Let's see…lee Joseph Mitchell go back under the rock Allah created for you and have your mother crush it. If your father really is a US marine I bet he is really proud of your idiotic sarcasm.

  125. Let's see…lee Joseph Mitchell go back under the rock Allah created for you and have your mother crush it. If your father really is a US marine I bet he is really proud of your idiotic sarcasm.

  126. So, Ms. Clark thinks this doesn't fall under the district umbrella? If those students tried to say a prayer, you can bet your sweet arses the district would be on them like stink on the south end of a horse going north.

  127. "Allah" is Arabic for G-d, just like Adonai is Hebrew for G-d and Deus is Latin for G-d. The word was used before Mohammed created Islam…

  128. Johnny Olson …And the Pledge should not contain references to God. Because that is That is "indoctrination and it has no place in public schools." Belief in God is many churches' doctrine after all.

  129. Johnny Olson

    1. The democrats fought against the 14th Amendment
    >in 1865

    2. The democrats fought against civil rights.
    >Until 1964, and it was a DEMOCRATIC HOUSE, SENATE AND PRESIDENT who enacted the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, etc… then the REPUBLICANS took over that role, and the racist Democrats became Republicans. Now it's Republicans who use the code words for race, who want to leave the Voting Rights Act weakened by the Republican dominated Supreme Court…

  130. Excellent news story. Instead of murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims, Americans are beginning to recognize the Arabic language.

    By the way, the name "God" is an English word. In Arabic, it translates into "Allah". Only an ignorant jackass would refuse this fact. Unfortunately, America is full of jackasses.

  131. Ron Abdow No, you dont say a pledge to another country while you live here and benefit from the rest of us… STPD PPL always trying to push their liberal agenda on the rest of us. You see now how you white woman have been duped!

  132. Merrilee Slaton so you are an expert on the Arabic language? On what basis have you developed your expertise on what Arabs think?

    Arabs will tell you that they believe in God and they worship Him. They then tell you that their word for God is Allah. You simply say no and tell them what they believe is wrong.

    You show the traits of a village idiot.

  133. Prototype Atheist I know, you have difficulty with reading comprehension but since arabic is spoken in the muslim world then perhaps these kids can have a taste of other parts of their culture.

    It would be like having a muslim having a pizza, burger and fries while watching football on TV. You know?

    I know it is difficult for you to not have some stupid reaction like you did and enter into the same argument that is on multiple threads that I have not engaged in, doper.

  134. Prototype Atheist I know, you have difficulty with reading comprehension but since arabic is spoken in the muslim world then perhaps these kids can have a taste of other parts of their culture.

    It would be like having a muslim having a pizza, burger and fries while watching football on TV. You know?

    I know it is difficult for you to not have some stupid reaction like you did and enter into the same argument that is on multiple threads that I have not engaged in, doper.

  135. Watch what you say here guys and gals. The muslim in the white house is passing a law to search the internet out for hate speech..The right to free speech is being infringed upon just as the second amendment is.

  136. Watch what you say here guys and gals. The muslim in the white house is passing a law to search the internet out for hate speech..The right to free speech is being infringed upon just as the second amendment is.

  137. Not so pal…there's a silent majority of us red neck ignorant Americans "MILLIONS" that are getting pretty fed up with you weirdo's coming to American and trying to change everything here. Just keep that in mind. You won't hear much from us until we're needed. I'm bilingual and don't wipe my ass with my bare hand either so who do you think is the dumbass and ignorant??

  138. John Blackburn Yes we are here and we are many, but dont think we are going to be friends afterwards. I despise freemason pedophiles too.

  139. Explain to me how using the proper Arabic word for "God" when reciting the Pledge of Allegiance has anything to do with prayer. Or are you suddenly keenly aware that this language doesn't belong in the pledge?

  140. Rich Iott Only if the shoe fits.

    When you exhibit a clear fear of foreigners, you're a xenophobe.

    When you exhibit a clear disdain for those of other races, you're a racist.

    When you exhibit animus towards homosexuals, you're a homophobe.

    When you exhibit dislike for those who live differently from yourself, you're a bigot.

    Sorry, those are just simply definitions.

  141. William Jenkins I have no difficulty with reading comprehension, but you might because you somehow inferred that reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic means that you're a Muslim.

    I know it is difficult for you to admit that you've based your life on Iron Age mythology, while decrying the ridiculousness of other Iron Age mythology, but perhaps some day you can.

  142. Teresa Geib Bacon Obviously if you would visit my Facebook page or YouTube channel, or ask me anything regarding your religion, you'd find that I am quite well informed on the subject.

  143. Teresa Geib Bacon Obviously if you would visit my Facebook page or YouTube channel, or ask me anything regarding your religion, you'd find that I am quite well informed on the subject.

  144. Allah, has no son, by the name of Jesus Christ. Allah is not the same as the Christian god..this is part of a godhead of the father, son and Holy spirit. Big difference.

  145. Allah simply means "God" in Arabic. If you know anything about Abrahamic religions, you'd know that Yahweh is the deity of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. They simply disagree as to the details. Not that it matters, because it is all nonsense.

    Yahweh was the Canaanite god of war in their polytheistic system. The Israelites adopted him for sole worship to justify their conquests. This is why he says "WE shall make man in OUR image" and "You shall have no other gods BEFORE ME", and why he commands the destruction of tribes who worship other Canaanite gods, such as Baal.

  146. Allah simply means "God" in Arabic. If you know anything about Abrahamic religions, you'd know that Yahweh is the deity of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. They simply disagree as to the details. Not that it matters, because it is all nonsense.

    Yahweh was the Canaanite god of war in their polytheistic system. The Israelites adopted him for sole worship to justify their conquests. This is why he says "WE shall make man in OUR image" and "You shall have no other gods BEFORE ME", and why he commands the destruction of tribes who worship other Canaanite gods, such as Baal.

  147. bring it punk im ready to lay my life for Jesus, who Is my savior not because he couldn't save himself from death, but because he gave his life WILLINGLY so that the curse that your father Satan (allah) started with his lie, would be settled!

  148. Freddie You're the idiot that needs to get a clue. No one gives a damn about how many languages you speak. but we do care when it comes to the "PLEDGE" and the "NATIONAL ANTHEM" If you can't sat it in English keep your damn mouth shut.

  149. John Kinonakoa Pacheco My point is that Christians and Muslims ARE NOT evil. If you use the actions of the few to judge the many then intolerance grows.

    Also, maybe you should wake up, none of these are fake and some of them were very recent and done in the name of Christianity. I'm not asleep sir.

  150. Prototype Atheist No argument there. Still, for Christians their God has a son, named Jesus Christ. The Islamic God Allah does not. That, to a Christian is a major detail that separates the Christian God from the Islamic God. This was my only point. Your point is interesting and one that Christians will have to deal with on a deeper theological level. But most either are not aware or their ministers keep them ignorant of.

  151. Muslim . As if it wasn't plain enough to see, you are a demon worshipping murderer w/ blind hate in his heart. Allah was a pagan moon goddess and Muhammed was a child molester, a liar, a charlatan, a thief, a raider, he was illiterate, a hypocrite, he claimed to be possessed by demons and he never made a SINGLE prophecy. If Islam was truly a religion of peace, you wouldn't have to threaten followers w/ death if they chose to leave it. That's the main reason that evil false faith has grown. People are afraid to leave it because deceived evil men like you want to act like monsters and murder them. Muslims even murder children and they will burn in Hell fr that….all because you worship a demon and his fraud "prophet", Muhammed.

  152. Santiago Matamoros No I'm actually pointing out to Zhou that the Bible has commands to go forth and go out of ones way to attack.

    Never said anything about the Quran(sp)

  153. George Broome . I don't want to kill you. You seem to be a peaceful christian, and we are not allowed to kill monks inside their monostaries. So I have no problem with you, it is only these other zionist extremist crossworshippers.

    It is they, who should be killed wherever they are found, and their heads cut off. So do not feel any sympathy for them, when such things happens to the likes of them.

    Now, as for your statements: "I don't worship the Cross I do worship Christ."

    'Ibadah (worship) is a very comprehensive term that incorporates everything that Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ loves and is pleased with from the statements and actions, both inward and outward.. and such worship occurs either in the heart, upon the tongue or through the limbs, all the forms and types of worship fall into any of these three categories.

    I know that your religion is very limited in knowledge and that you are a people who have it very hard understanding simple things like, NO PROPHET EVER SPOKE ENGLISH. Jesus never said the word "God" or Jehovah" or "Yahweh" – the name of the Creator in his language is Allah as I showed you earlier.

    And know that there are certain types of worship, that is solely for Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ Alone. And the greatest form of worship, the essence of worship itself is: Du'a (Supplication, Invocation)

    Thus, invoking anyone but Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ, is the greatest crime, sin, wrong-doing that the human or jinn could ever do, and if someone dies with such – then Paradise has been forbidden for him/her. Meaning they will never come out of the Fire.

    Those that you invoke, like Jesus the son of Mary عليه السلام did not create the universe. It was not he who created you, gave you life, seeing, hearing or understanding. For example, can Jesus the son of May عليه السلام created the sun if it were to have vanished? Thus we understand that he does not possess the same Attributes, Powers as the Creator. He was only a man, he was created, he came out of a womb. so why do you then attribute unto him, such Powers that only belongs unto the Creator and Owner of the creation?

    And you are doing it, by you just invoking or calling upon him. They invoke humans who are not present, who cannot hear them, nor does he know or have a single clue about them worshipping him.

    For example, lets say if a human has a speech infront of a million people and everyone in the crowd is asking him, yelling out his name. Could the speaker know or understand what every single one of those people were saying?

    Now, think about a group of people, who are calling upon the same speake, but in a different country inside a church, behind some walls. Would that speaker have any clue about what they are saying?

    Is Jesus or his mother present, and even if they were, could they hear all of those who are invoking and worhsipping them?

    If you say yes, that they are able to hear and know such calls, invocations etc? Then you are not describing human-beings anymore.

    You are attributing unto them, such Attributes and Powers which they do not posseess, and which is rightfully and only Belongs unto His Majesty the Creator of the heavens and earth, Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ , like Al-'Aleem (All-Knower), As-Samee' (All-Hearer), Al-Mujeeb (The Responsive), Al-Wahhab (The Bestower) etc. These are the Attributes of Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ, and none has a share in them.

    Just by you invoking someone or something else besides your Creator, you have made such things as equals, partners, rivals with your Creator – and thus you are a mushrik (polytheist) are on your path to the everlasting torments in the Fire.

    If you believe that a human like Jesus the son of Mary عليه السلام – and what makes more troublesome for you is that you believe,:he was tortured and killed, and humiliated by some jews.

    So if you believe someone who was humiliated is a god. and possess the attributes of the Creator or that he could create and bring about the likes of this universe. Then you do deserve to burn in the Fire forever.

    And Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ has promised to fill up the Jahannam (Hell-Fire) with both Jinn and Men altogether. They were very ignorant, worse than the cattle, and they could not understand simply things, and they were extremely deluded, averse and stubborn.

    By Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ, if you die with the christian beliefs, you will burn in the Fire forever. So be wise and use your intellect. And if you have a hard time understanding simple Monotheism, then pray and ask your Creator to grant you sound understanding.

  154. George Broome

    And there are other forms of worship of the heart and tongue and limbs:

    Mahabbah (Love)
    Khawf (Fear)
    Rajaa' (Hope)
    Tawakkul (Reliance)
    Raghbah (Aspiration)
    Rahbah (Apprehensive Fear)
    Khushoo' (Submissive Humility)
    Khashyah (Awe)
    Inaabah (Penitence)
    Isti'aanah (Seeking Aid)
    Isti'aadhah (Seeking Refuge)
    Istighaathah (Seeking Rescue)
    Dhabh (Sacrifice)
    Nadhr (Making Oath)

    So their wearing of the cross, and hanging it around their necks, inside their houses, cars and using it in exorcism, thinking that it can bring benefit or harm – is shirk (polytheism).

    It comes under the ruling of amulets and talismans. Because they seek refuge (Isti'aanah) with it and, they rely (Tawakkul) upon it. While it is just a piece of wood or steel and they think it can bring harm or benefit.

    Understand that, all of the Mushrikeen (polytheists, pagans, idolaters) – are engaged in worshipping things that cannot harm them, nor benefit them.

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    قُلْ أَتَعْبُدُونَ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ مَا لَا يَمْلِكُ لَكُمْ ضَرًّا وَلَا نَفْعًا ۚ وَاللَّهُ هُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ
    Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم to mankind): "How do you worship besides Allah something which has no power either to harm or benefit you? But it is Allah Who is the All-Hearer, All-Knower."

    Qur'aan Surah al-Maa'idah Ayah 76

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ ضُرِبَ مَثَلٌ فَاسْتَمِعُوا لَهُ ۚ إِنَّ الَّذِينَ تَدْعُونَ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ لَن يَخْلُقُوا ذُبَابًا وَلَوِ اجْتَمَعُوا لَهُ ۖ وَإِن يَسْلُبْهُمُ الذُّبَابُ شَيْئًا لَّا يَسْتَنقِذُوهُ مِنْهُ ۚ ضَعُفَ الطَّالِبُ وَالْمَطْلُوبُ
    O mankind! A similitude has been coined, so listen to it (carefully): Verily those on whom you call besides Allah, cannot create (even) a fly, even though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly snatches away a thing from them, they will have no power to release it from the fly. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought.

    مَا قَدَرُوا اللَّهَ حَقَّ قَدْرِهِ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَقَوِيٌّ عَزِيزٌ
    They have not estimated Allah His Rightful Estimate. Verily, Allah is All-Strong, All-Mighty.

    Qur'aan Surah al-Hajj Ayat 73-74

    Thus, can Jesus the son of Mary عليه السلام create a fly – when you already believe that he was killed and tortured by some jews. Thus a bunch of jews are more powerful than the one you are worshipping. And thus so weak are both the seeker (i.e. the christian polytheist) and the sought (their false deities.)

    And if you say that he is your lord and saviour. Why did he not save himself? How can someone who is suppose to be worshipped and be a god, not save himself from a bunch of jews, who were trying to kill him?

    So if he could not help himself – how can he then help you today or after this life.

    Are you not only wasting your time, by worshipping someone who cannot harm or benefit?

    Jesus the son of Mary عليه السلام is the Messenger of Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ and he never died nor did the jews harm him. He is free is from what these polytheists say about him, and if they die with their polytheistic beliefs, they will abide in the Fire forever. And that is the absolute truth with certainty.

  155. Allah is the god of islam, Yahweh is the God of Judaism and Christianity. Allah is a false god and no true christian or jew would ever pray to the moon god of the chaldeans. Lee Joseph Mitchell you are not very clever or learned. Your protestations have exposed your folly.

  156. "ridiculous" your words. I don't drink moonshine. Haven't called you a "sand nigger". However you have been very loose with personal insults. And if you're in Aruba I have no idea why you would be on this page, go drink some Balashi and chill. And again, to whom do I pay my jizya to?

  157. Erick, there is nothing wrong with being a socialist you (and most citizens) need to learn to talk about this subject as adults. The national discourse in the USA tends to be juvenile because people either shout down opposing views, or they simply do not understand the terms used in adult conversations about economics and governance.

    BUT IF you detest a so-called socialist-written pledge, why would you recite it all?

    To each according to their need, from each according to their ability, under God.

  158. Vic Santana
    I think you look like a demon. Have you seen that will smith movie, with the infected creatures? You look like one of them. Ugly, looking crossworshipping filth.

    And surely you will abide in the Fire, so perish with your ugly crossworshipping face.

  159. The writer is ignorant and causing a stir over a word, and if you agree with him then you should go and talk to an Arab Christian about their God and what the word is for Him.
    If they chose German and used the word Gott would they have jumped to the conclusion they are pushing Nazi thoughts on them, or Dios would be pushing an immigration ideology.
    When we say God in English it isn't restricted to just Christians or Catholics so God in any other language isn't restricted to one religion…..

  160. The writer is ignorant and causing a stir over a word, and if you agree with him then you should go and talk to an Arab Christian about their God and what the word is for Him.
    If they chose German and used the word Gott would they have jumped to the conclusion they are pushing Nazi thoughts on them, or Dios would be pushing an immigration ideology.
    When we say God in English it isn't restricted to just Christians or Catholics so God in any other language isn't restricted to one religion…..

  161. Lee Joseph Mitchell 1. Muslims CANNOT doubt the Koran (2:1)
    2. Non-Muslim sex slaves are OK (Koran 4:23-24)
    3. Non-Muslims are sworn enemies of Muslims and Islam (Koran 4:101)
    4. Muslims are forbidden from having non-Muslims as friends (Koran 5:51)
    5. Muslims have the holy duty to kill non-Muslims (Koran 9:5)
    6. Only GUARANTEED way to enter “heaven” is to kill non-Muslims (Koran 9:111)
    7. Muslims MUST terrorize non-Muslims (Koran 8:12)
    8. Muslims can lie to non-Muslims to help Islam (Koran 3:28, 16:106)
    9. Non-Muslims pick one: 1. Die, 2. Convert, 3. Pay Extortion Money to Live (Koran 9:29).
    10. Non-Muslims are vile creatures deserving no mercy (Koran 98:6)
    11. Wife beating is OK (Koran 4:34)
    12. Marriage and divorce of children is OK (Koran 65:4)
    13. Rape is OK, need 4 male Muslim witnesses for proof (Koran 24:13)
    14. Robbery and theft of non-Muslims (Koran: Entire Chapter 8 called Booty)
    15. When Koran conflicts, later verses cancel out earlier verses (Koran 2:106)
    16. Mohammed at 51-years old married his child bride Aisha (6-years old).

  162. John Kinonakoa Pacheco Whatever his beliefs… he seems very reasonable (and seemingly an atheist as well).

    This country was built to be diverse, and having other cultures as a part of it should not only be welcomed but celebrated as what made us what we are today.

    Should muslims have their religion in the law? No.
    Christians? No.

    Part of what made this country so robust was the foresight to remove religion and religious law from the government.

    Are children allowed to invoke god, allah, and other religious nonsense at school? You bet your ass :). The first amendment merely limits the government (employees) from espousing religion. The students should be allowed to talk about, organize, and participate on their own, and they are.

  163. Erick Johnson I'm not arguing that point at all though. I'm asking people if they really think it's their place to judge anybody for anything. The truth is, none of us have it completely right.

  164. Erick Johnson I'm not arguing that point at all though. I'm asking people if they really think it's their place to judge anybody for anything. The truth is, none of us have it completely right.

  165. Ron Abdow LJM claims to be from Oregon but it's obvious that he has converted to muslim. That is fine. he has that right. He will not however win any of us Patriotic Christian Americans over because we know the Truth. He is free to move to an Islamic country. On this page he is nothing but a troll.

  166. Gregory and 632 ignorant people how can u guys be so uneducated??? the difference between God and Allah is the same difference between apple and elma(in turkish language) lmao… Gods words in Bible were aramic NOT ENGILISH YOU RETARDED UNEDUCATED OXYGEN WASTING people.. and only God(Allah) knows what kind of mistakes have been made while translating from aramic to english……… may Allah,God,Tanri,Illahi be with yall.

  167. Freddie, YHWH is the name for the Christian God, ALLAH is the name for Islam's moon God. So, yeah there is a difference.

  168. Freddie, YHWH is the name for the Christian God, ALLAH is the name for Islam's moon God. So, yeah there is a difference.

  169. Santiago Matamoros i know what tu quoque means and it was deliberate. The aim of the quote was to have the person examine the beam in their eye before they mention the mote in someone else's. As to christians killing non christians I bring you the albegensian crusades and the auto de fe (and the victims of the war of the st bartholomew day massacre or Mary Tudor's purges. Perhaps the Pogroms of eastern europe and the massacres of jews at the hands of catholics e.g Rhineland massacres). I would also suggest that Giordano Bruno and others might raise an eybrow at your utterly fatuous claim that christians don't execute non christians. My entire point is that both religions areequally guilty when it comes to being douche bags to people so don't think I am defending islam.

    BTW christians don't need to use suicide bombs, they have drones.

  170. Santiago Matamoros i know what tu quoque means and it was deliberate. The aim of the quote was to have the person examine the beam in their eye before they mention the mote in someone else's. As to christians killing non christians I bring you the albegensian crusades and the auto de fe (and the victims of the war of the st bartholomew day massacre or Mary Tudor's purges. Perhaps the Pogroms of eastern europe and the massacres of jews at the hands of catholics e.g Rhineland massacres). I would also suggest that Giordano Bruno and others might raise an eybrow at your utterly fatuous claim that christians don't execute non christians. My entire point is that both religions areequally guilty when it comes to being douche bags to people so don't think I am defending islam.

    BTW christians don't need to use suicide bombs, they have drones.

  171. Muslim . So you admit that the demon that you worship is named after the pagan moon goddess Allah? You don't even deny that Muslims murder people that are smart enough to realize their religion is false? Why can't people make their own choices? I don't have to insult you to prove that you worship a demon. Even yr embarrassing attacks on me prove that Islam is evil and false. You can lie about God and Jesus and worship a demon but know this, the time will come when you, yr demon god and all Muslims will bend their knee and call Jesus Lord. I'll even quote the Koran and Hadiths that prove that yr faith is an evil fraud.

  172. This is what the christians wanted, god in schools. Guess what, you got it now reap the repercussions. As far as "messing" with the pledge, it was, under God was added…and that's where it starts.

  173. George Broome

    And there are other types of Worship of the heart, tongue and limbs aswell that is soley for Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ Alone without partner, like:

    Du'a (Supplication)
    Mahabbah (Love)
    Khawf (Fear)
    Rajaa' (Hope)
    Tawakkul (Reliance)
    Raghbah (Aspiration)
    Rahbah (Apprehensive Fear)
    Khushoo' (Submissive Humility)
    Khashyah (Awe)
    Inaabah (Penitence)
    Isti'aanah (Seeking Aid)
    Isti'aadhah (Seeking Refuge)
    Istighaathah (Seeking Rescue)
    Dhabh (Sacrifice)
    Nadhr (Making Oath)

    And their wearing of the cross around their necks and inside their churches, houses, cars, or using it in exorcism and waving it while believing that a piece of wood or steel can bring harm or benefit. All of that fall under the ruling of amulets and talismans.

    It was narrated from Zaynab the wife of ‘Abdullah ibn Mas’ud from ‘Abdullah رضى الله عنه that he said:

    “I heard the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم say, ‘Spells, amulets and love-charms are shirk.” I said, “Why do you say this? By Allah, my eye was weeping with a discharge and I kept going to so and so, the Jew, who did a spell for me. When he did the spell, it calmed down.” ‘Abdullah said: “That was just the work of the Shaytaan who was picking it with his hand, and when (the Jew) uttered the spell, he stopped. All you needed to do was to say as the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم used to say: ‘Adhhib il-ba’s Rabb al-naas ishfi anta al-Shaafi laa shifaa’a illa shifaa’uka shifaa’an laa yughaadiru saqaman (Remove the harm, O Lord of mankind, and heal, You are the Healer. There is no healing but Your healing, a healing which leaves no disease behind).’”

    [Narrated by Abu Dawood, 3883; Ibn Maajah, 3530, This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani رحمه الله in al-Silsilat al-Saheehah, 331 and 2972]

    Just like the crusaders, believeing that they had the original cross and that they would never lose in battle if they had it with them, seeking help (Isti'aanah), seeking refuge) Isti'aadhah and relying (tawakkul) upon it.

    And they they took that cross with them tothe Battle of Hattin, and once they were curshed and eliminated by Salahuddeen al-Ayyubi رحمه الله and the Muslim Believers that where with him, not only did they take their filthy cross from them, but they also took their king Guy de Lysignon as a prisoner, and the pope at that time, when he heard the news that the crusaders were defeated and that Jerusalem came to its original state, under the hands of the Muslims, the Pure Monotheists, the pope died because of the news. So curse be upon him and those crossworshippers that were defeated, and a similar fate awaits you.

  174. Anyone who believes that Allah and God of The Bible are the same guy needs to read both books. Even Thomas Jefferson is kicking the lid at this one.

  175. Anyone who believes that Allah and God of The Bible are the same guy needs to read both books. Even Thomas Jefferson is kicking the lid at this one.

  176. George Broome

    And there are other types of Worship of the heart, tongue and limbs aswell that is soley for Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ Alone without partner, like:

    Du'a (Supplication)
    Mahabbah (Love)
    Khawf (Fear)
    Rajaa' (Hope)
    Tawakkul (Reliance)
    Raghbah (Aspiration)
    Rahbah (Apprehensive Fear)
    Khushoo' (Submissive Humility)
    Khashyah (Awe)
    Inaabah (Penitence)
    Isti'aanah (Seeking Aid)
    Isti'aadhah (Seeking Refuge)
    Istighaathah (Seeking Rescue)
    Dhabh (Sacrifice)
    Nadhr (Making Oath)

    And their wearing of the cross around their necks and inside their churches, houses, cars, or using it in exorcism and waving it while believing that a piece of wood or steel can bring harm or benefit. All of that fall under the ruling of amulets and talismans.

    It was narrated from Zaynab the wife of ‘Abdullah ibn Mas’ud from ‘Abdullah رضى الله عنه that he said:

    “I heard the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم say, ‘Spells, amulets and love-charms are shirk.” I said, “Why do you say this? By Allah, my eye was weeping with a discharge and I kept going to so and so, the Jew, who did a spell for me. When he did the spell, it calmed down.” ‘Abdullah said: “That was just the work of the Shaytaan who was picking it with his hand, and when (the Jew) uttered the spell, he stopped. All you needed to do was to say as the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم used to say: ‘Adhhib il-ba’s Rabb al-naas ishfi anta al-Shaafi laa shifaa’a illa shifaa’uka shifaa’an laa yughaadiru saqaman (Remove the harm, O Lord of mankind, and heal, You are the Healer. There is no healing but Your healing, a healing which leaves no disease behind).’”

    [Narrated by Abu Dawood, 3883; Ibn Maajah, 3530, This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani رحمه الله in al-Silsilat al-Saheehah, 331 and 2972]

    Just like the crusaders, believeing that they had the original cross and that they would never lose in battle if they had it with them, seeking help (Isti'aanah), seeking refuge) Isti'aadhah and relying (tawakkul) upon it.

    And they they took that cross with them tothe Battle of Hattin, and once they were curshed and eliminated by Salahuddeen al-Ayyubi رحمه الله and the Muslim Believers that where with him, not only did they take their filthy cross from them, but they also took their king Guy de Lysignon as a prisoner, and the pope at that time, when he heard the news that the crusaders were defeated and that Jerusalem came to its original state, under the hands of the Muslims, the Pure Monotheists, the pope died because of the news. So curse be upon him and those crossworshippers that were defeated, and a similar fate awaits you.

  177. Wow, WHAT are we teaching our kids these days? That it's OK to placate a savage, fake "religion" that condones pedophilia, beheading "infidels" and beating women as the norm?

  178. George Broome

    So you are crossworshippers, no doubt about it! Because you believe the cross has some power, benefit or harm.

    And all of the Mushrikeen (polytheists, pagans, idolaters) worship things that can neither harm them or benefit them in some way or the other.

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    قُلْ أَتَعْبُدُونَ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ مَا لَا يَمْلِكُ لَكُمْ ضَرًّا وَلَا نَفْعًا ۚ وَاللَّهُ هُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ
    Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم to mankind): "How do you worship besides Allah something which has no power either to harm or benefit you? But it is Allah Who is the All-Hearer, All-Knower."

    Qur'aan Surah al-Maa'idah Ayah 76

    Thus they invoke a human who cannot hear them nor help them. And they believe he was killed and crucified, murdered and humiliated by some jews. Thus a bunch of jews are mightier than their weak god according to their beliefs and what they believe happened to him.

    So is that why they support those ignoble jews? Because their beliefs necessitates that jews are more powerful than their god? Or is their example like that of the hostage, and his hostage-taker, the former having sympathy for the latter, like the stockholm syndrom?

    How one worship someone whom you believe died and was humiliated and tortured and killed? Have no then no SENSE!

    The state of the mushrik (christian polytheist), is indeed very confusing and strange.

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ ضُرِبَ مَثَلٌ فَاسْتَمِعُوا لَهُ ۚ إِنَّ الَّذِينَ تَدْعُونَ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ لَن يَخْلُقُوا ذُبَابًا وَلَوِ اجْتَمَعُوا لَهُ ۖ وَإِن يَسْلُبْهُمُ الذُّبَابُ شَيْئًا لَّا يَسْتَنقِذُوهُ مِنْهُ ۚ ضَعُفَ الطَّالِبُ وَالْمَطْلُوبُ
    O mankind! A similitude has been coined, so listen to it (carefully): Verily those on whom you call besides Allah, cannot create (even) a fly, even though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly snatches away a thing from them, they will have no power to release it from the fly. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought.

    مَا قَدَرُوا اللَّهَ حَقَّ قَدْرِهِ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَقَوِيٌّ عَزِيزٌ
    They have not estimated Allah His Rightful Estimate. Verily, Allah is All-Strong, All-Mighty.

    Qur'aan Surah al-Hajj Ayat 73-74

    Jesus the son of Mary عليه السلام cannot even create a fly, and they make him as an equal with the Creator of the heavens and earth. Do they not deserve to burn in the Fire forever because of their evil beliefs? Of course they do, and they will abide therein forever, they are one of the worst creatures on earth.

    So how can he help them, when they believe he was killed and humiliated?

    So can someone who could not help himself, help others?

    Can he anyones "lord and saviour" – when he could not according their sick beliefs – not even help himself?

    Your own beliefs are enough to demolish and refute your whole religion on its own.

    Thus, so weak are both the seeker (christian polytheist) and the sought (their false deities).

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    أَيُشْرِكُونَ مَا لَا يَخْلُقُ شَيْئًا وَهُمْ يُخْلَقُونَ
    Do they attribute as partners to Allah those who created nothing but they themselves are created?

    وَلَا يَسْتَطِيعُونَ لَهُمْ نَصْرًا وَلَا أَنفُسَهُمْ يَنصُرُونَ
    No help can they give them, nor can they help themselves.

    Qur'aan Surah al-A'raaf Ayat 191-192

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    إِن تَدْعُوهُمْ لَا يَسْمَعُوا دُعَاءَكُمْ وَلَوْ سَمِعُوا مَا اسْتَجَابُوا لَكُمْ ۖ وَيَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ يَكْفُرُونَ بِشِرْكِكُمْ ۚ وَلَا يُنَبِّئُكَ مِثْلُ خَبِيرٍ
    If you invoke (or call upon) them, they hear not your call; and if (in case) they were to hear, they could not grant it (your request) to you. And on the Day of Resurrection, they will disown your worshipping them. And none can inform you like Him Who is the All-Knower (of everything).

    Qur'aan Surah Faatir Ayah 14

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    لَقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ ۖ وَقَالَ الْمَسِيحُ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ اعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبَّكُمْ ۖ إِنَّهُ مَن يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدْ حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ الْجَنَّةَ وَمَأْوَاهُ النَّارُ ۖ وَمَا لِلظَّالِمِينَ مِنْ أَنصَارٍ
    Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allah is the Messiah son of Mary (i.e Jesus)." But the Messiah said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode. And for the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers) there are no helpers.

    Qur'aan Surah al-Maa'idah Ayah 72

  179. I love how none of the people seem to get the irony that the kids are made to recite the pledge that most people believe includes the Christian God regardless of what religion they are or aren't despite the original pledge being inclusive by having no references to anyone's god. If you let one religion in, you must let them all in.
    This is one of the reasons why our founders separated religion and government. Too bad overzealous religionists have ruined this and got us into a situation where schools, due to people demanding they're religion be given special treatment and everyone having equality, will eventually have to recognize and pay respect to all religious beliefs, which of course is not possible due to many religions having conflicts and atheism conflicting with all religions. In order to stop this insanity, we must make our schools neutral towards all religious viewpoints.

  180. I love how none of the people seem to get the irony that the kids are made to recite the pledge that most people believe includes the Christian God regardless of what religion they are or aren't despite the original pledge being inclusive by having no references to anyone's god. If you let one religion in, you must let them all in.
    This is one of the reasons why our founders separated religion and government. Too bad overzealous religionists have ruined this and got us into a situation where schools, due to people demanding they're religion be given special treatment and everyone having equality, will eventually have to recognize and pay respect to all religious beliefs, which of course is not possible due to many religions having conflicts and atheism conflicting with all religions. In order to stop this insanity, we must make our schools neutral towards all religious viewpoints.

  181. Haha, hypocrites! Why all the butthurt because it was allah used and not your own mythical name for your sky daddy? "Under god" shouldn't be in the pledge in the first place, it wasn't written into the original pledge. See, this phrase is only said to promote the christian myth. But as soon as someone uses something other than that myth, they all get butthurt and throw a hissy fit.

  182. Ron Davis The moonshine comment was in response to not pissing off rednecks. The sand nigger was from someone already on this webpage. If you want to talk personal insults the most I've done is politely rebut what others have said. Congratulations on being able to read my non updated location on facebook. I hate to break it to you but asking who to pay jizya to doesn't make you very clever. No one is advocating sharia laws in the States.

  183. You mean like the christian pedo-priests' problem all around the world? Your christian myth is just as savage and fake as islam.

  184. So it is ok to force the American Christian version of God onto children but you try to show them how to be understanding and tolerant of others beliefs and all hell breaks loose. I want so much to be able to embrace the Christian people as the good and caring people that I know many of them are, but you right wing nut jobs yell your screwed up interpretations of Christianity so loudly it is hard to hear the truly good messages that are out there. Christianity is it's own worst enemy.

  185. Mohammed was a son of Abraham. They all worship THE SAME GOD. They have just chosen follow a different core doctrine.

  186. I wish you religious people would spend half the time helping others and not judging other human beings that you do arguing over your poorly written holy books and made up deities.

  187. "Allah" is the Arabic word for "God." Why is that so difficult for people to understand? Yes, Muslims use the word "Allah." Big deal. They believe in God. Are there beliefs about God the same as Christians' beliefs about God? No, but they do believe in an omnipotent, omniscient deity that created the world and everyone in it, and so they call that deity "God." Deal with it.

  188. Ron Davis Girls are being kidnapped and being married to Christian folk as well, as I said before it's a culture thing, not a religious thing. You have been sprouting statistic with absolutely no proof to back them up. If I wanted to pull stats out my ass I would but it's evident it wouldn't make a speck of difference since it's evident most of your news sources are either biased or miles into the right wing.

    You said no Muslims speak up for atrocities, yet they do and have been. Just because the news sources 'you' prefer don't deem it necessary to report on those doesn't mean it isn't happening mate. You talk about the majority of a community yet you give broken and cherry picked examples of laws being made in certain extremist States. I could do the same and list example of certain Christian extremists like the Norway killer or the Batman movie joker who identified as Christians. Does that mean they now represent the whole of the faith?

    With Apostasy you are once again wrong and your information is outdated. This is exactly what proved me to that you have limited biased knowledge. There are many clerics who outright condone any punishment for apostasy, whereas others differ on the specifics. Bottom line the only ones to practice and retain barbaric practices are the limited few.

    Please don't talk to me about the punishment for female adulterers. Once again the limited and uneducated pockets of villages might practice unethical punishments, but the moderate Muslims don't particularly care. And might I remind you what the Old Testament says about adultery as well or you seem like a semi grown up boy, you can look it up.

    Honestly where are you pulling the numbers out from against our views on terrorism? Your surveys hold absolutely no meaning when they cannot get a large enough pool to get proper polling from. You cannot poll the majority of Muslims spread around the world. But even if you take just the ones in the States as I stated before link the exact studies that showed support for the extremists. There is none, there are multiple fatwas against terrorists. Even one of the more controversial Islamic speakers who holds to some old fashioned views Dr. Zaker Naik, condemned terrorism. But what would you know?

    The Koran specifically States to protect your neighbors of different faiths, and anyone who goes against that is simply not a Muslim. Fact of the matter is that only a very small amount of Muslims do engage in practices that they justify wrongly in the name of religion. The same goes for extremists of every faith or culture.

    Go and educate yourself from non biased news sources, befriend a Muslim in your school or work, and form opinions not rose tinted with hatred. Because as pretty much every other person, the misinformation you spread does just that, makes things harder for American Muslims when we are trying to mind our own business.

  189. I've yet to see anyone get the whole point of this. The moment people argue that Allah shouldn't be in there for religious objection reasons or because "it'S 'MERICA", is the moment they are admitting they clearly think THEIR religion is okay to hAve s "an agenda" in our government.

  190. What is wrong with you people? You're all losing your minds over this, whereas few would even have bat an eyelid had they said it in english with the words "under god". You should be losing your shit just as badly had they said "under god" in english, as that is still bringing religion into your schools.

    Oh and, for the record, the pledge of allegiance is broken and needs to be fixed. "Under god" was never in the pledge until 1954. Before then, it was simply "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." So fuck your "under god" addition, and get a grip all of you.

  191. How is it okay to force a Christian god on impressionable minds okay, but to call him by any other name wrong? You people are upset for all of the wrong reasons. It shouldn't be "What god should we be allowed to cram down our children's throat?" but "How can we further their education without holding it back with religious stereotypes?"

  192. Merrilee Slaton Um, indoctrinating kids by forcing them to say the pledge is more wrong than replacing the word God with Allah.

    I fact, the phrase 'Under God' is in fact a violation of the First Amendment. It doesn't matter if YOU agree with the words, other people do not and if you truly believe in freedom and the principles that built this nation, then you would understand why the phrase 'Under God' must go, if not the entire pledge.

  193. So its not ok to introduce kids to a religion outside of Christianity, but its perfectly fine to shove Christianity bullshit down their throats every day? So its my way or the highway in Colorado? you people are ignorant. This is why the rest of the world hates us.

  194. Prototype Atheist With all due respect, head knowledge is worldly, English Standard Version
    Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
    That is one of many as you know. One can know all there is to know but without a personal relationship w Christ all is for naught. Have a nice evening

  195. Liz Edwards Collins "Allah and God are not the same. Their "god" has them kill people. do you see Christians running around killing anybody? 2 different God's"

    Yes, I see plenty of christians going around and killing people.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#Murders

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

    Also, the word "God" in the Arabic language is pronounced "Allah". You idiots just confuse the word as being specifically for the Islamic god when even Arabic Hindus would use the word allah to describe their gods.

  196. I'm sorry but your argument is flawed from the get-go. You cannot impose any specific "god" on the pledge of allegiance, so to be butthurt when the islamic word for it is used, is simply flawed. Perhaps now you'll realize how other religions and people who are not of faith feel when people force them to say "One Nation Under God."

    Because although it does not cite which god the pledge speaks of, it does intend to impose the most popular one in our country. You and the rest of the lemmings agreeing with what you wrote need some dire introspection.

  197. If Allah is not the God of the Old and New Testament, then Jehovah has a doppelganger running around. Islam sprung out of the same stories of the bible, a lot like Christianity sprung out of Judaism.

  198. If Allah is not the God of the Old and New Testament, then Jehovah has a doppelganger running around. Islam sprung out of the same stories of the bible, a lot like Christianity sprung out of Judaism.

  199. I am a turd! I shall speak for the liberals! Allah is the Arabic word for God. So what we have is a case of kids saying the national anthem in another language. There is nothing else to it. You are welcome.

  200. Prototype Atheist you have no clue as to the foundation of the USA. We were built on Christian ideals even though you don't like that notion. There is no way you can compare the birth of the USA with what is going on now.

  201. Hey conservatives…you may wanna go bitch at every high school foreign language teacher EVER then, because it's a typical part of the curriculum to learn the Pledge of Allegiance in other languages. Why should Arabic be any different? As someone who has quite a few Arabic Christian friends, this is EXACTLY how they'd recite the pledge as well. Get over yourselves. The world is changing, and you neanderthals are going to be left in the dust.

  202. Liz Edwards Collins You mean like the "Christians" that run around killing abortion doctors, or all of those "Christians" that killed women that were supposedly witches, or the Christians who killed all the jews during the Inquisition, or then there were those pesky crusades….oh that's right, Christians DO run around killing people all of the time!

  203. John Blackburn Actually, Bush set the precedence for the NSA to spy on us all. Our texts, emails, Internet activity, financials, work history, and thanks to our cell phones…GPS, contacts, and remote access to our cameras and microphones are all gathered by the NSA, catalogued and stored on super computers, analyzed with social networking programs and Ai search algorithms.

    Say what you want about Obama, but he is not the problem. If you are too blind to see that then I am truly sorry for you brother

  204. The god of the bible and the quran are the SAME GOD. The only thing that differs between them is that Christians worship Jesus as a prophet and Muslims worship Muhammad as a prophet. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam branch from the same monotheistic beliefs, and they are all equally incorrect anyway.

  205. Tony Rodfrejoles They weren't praying you fucktard, they were saying the pledge. You do know the difference, don't you?

  206. Lee Joseph Mitchell, It gets better: The word in Gen. 1:1 translated into English as "God" is the Hebrew word Elohim. It is the plural form of the generic word for god. So, yes, if you translated the bible into Arabic, it would be "Allah" creating the heavens and the earth. Jews, Christians, and Muslims share a common God, we just have different interpretations of God (even amongst ourselves!).

  207. Principal needs to be FIRED….TODAY !!! NO excuses, this is America, if you want to worship Allah, go to a Muslim country and do it ! NOT IN AMERICA BOYS & GIRLS……

  208. Vito Giotta Um, Christianity is a cult dude. It is a fake religion based on lies, has caused centuries of bloodshed, bigotry, and political intrigue. I would not say one religion is better than another, they all suck equally.

  209. I went to Rocky. Graduated from there in 09 . I'm all about expressing personal opinions…. But being a soldier in the infantry for my nation… Replacing and saying words that deviate from the meaning and purpose of the pledge… I couldn't be more pissed

  210. Merrilee Slaton And you still have time to believe in a false religion, lies about Jesus based on cherry picked books from the Torah and "scriptures" written by unknown sources over 400 years…all of which were edited endlessly by unknown editors before the printing press was invented?

  211. Merrilee Slaton And you still have time to believe in a false religion, lies about Jesus based on cherry picked books from the Torah and "scriptures" written by unknown sources over 400 years…all of which were edited endlessly by unknown editors before the printing press was invented?

  212. Vic Santana And what was Jesus? Not a savior, not a God, and nothing more than a poor rabbi who committed treason and was killed for it. End of story. There was no resurrection, there will not be a second coming…it is all bullshit.

  213. Allah means GOD. Get over it, Bigots. To the author of this article, CAIR is a Civil Rights Organization that does an amazing and inspiring job at what they do. The only "front group" in this article is "Fox news" pretending they are "fair and balanced."

  214. Allah is another name for god… im gessing ur Christian and what dose the bible say god has many names im a muslem and gess what there are many thing everyone dosnt know nether do i but we all lern

  215. hey asshole you say speak english gess what theres americans in China they dont say speak chines or leav theres many lenguegis dosnt mean just cuz ware they are they have to speak that sertin lengueg bitch

  216. Merrilee Slaton and how wold oyu know are you god are you Allah are you many of his names you can not juge what you do not know God as many names and yo ucan not say that is not one

  217. Michele Ulino Learn the laws of your own country. The US applies the Ius Solis, latin for "Right of soil" as their criteria for give the citizenship. It's in your 14th Amendment. The only exception to this are the offspring of people who's not under the jurisdiction of your laws, that is, foreign diplomats and prisioners of war.

    So yes, as you put it, "squeak out your spawn and the spawn is automatically a citizen", that's exactly what happens.

  218. you all are hypocrites for having a problem with this. if you are angry about having another god's name in the pledge of allegiance, you are supporting unconstitutional actions. freedom of religion means ALL religions, not just yours.

  219. Craig Mawson You are correct in all that sir; however, I myself am not a Christian, and I can't help but see that you are from the great Muslim stronghold of New Zealand. So, you can spout off at Christians, please have at it. I know you will never pump your little kiwi balls up enough to say squat about Islam…now will you. They would have you in jail or worse in a heartbeat.

  220. Lee Joseph Mitchell Well, in fact The USA had a language before the English came :) Natives already spoke a language! Anyways, I think I will be acting like my fellow commenting people and say "this is Mexico, speak Spanish or leave" to all the americans living in Chapala (a small town in Mexico where all the services have had to change into spanish-english because american citizens are living there), in Guadalajara (another city in Mexico with a huge amount of people from the USA) and Mexico City.

  221. Zaak you are the hypocrite why should the muslin god be allowed in school when we are not supposed to have our god in school. so how is it freedom from all religions, come on explain that. doesn't make sense to me.

  222. that is your opinion, 97% of the people in the United States does believe in a God of one kind or another. Am so sick of you Atheists trying to force your 1 or 2% population on the rest of us

  223. I hope you people understand that the word Allah is the Arabic word for God; Yaweh, Allah, and God are all the same person. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all Abrahamic religions who worship the same God. Anyone who says otherwise is quite simply ignorant and have been swallowing hideous lies. The only difference between each religion is how they choose to worship which is particular to different culture. There is no agenda, only bigots who are convinced that Islam is only comprised of extremists, which is the real deceit and danger. If you want to get real specific let's talk about how this shouldn't even be an issue because under god wasn't a part of a pledge for a really long time to begin with, it was only inserted as an "f you" to the communists. Originally the pledge was void of any mention of god as no one particular god is to be favored in our government.

  224. Merrilee Slaton we arent supposed to have the christian god in school, but that doesnt stop it from happening. however, that is not what i'm referring to. i am referencing the freedom of religion that is part of our first amendment that applies to all who live in america. suggesting otherwise is arguably treasonous, as it goes against THE VERY FIRST RIGHT THAT AMERICANS HAVE. make sense?

  225. Muslim . WOW! So much hatred and so many insulting words. I don't hate anyone, and if I had only .01% of the hatred that you seem to harbor inside your heart, I'd rather not be alive. Your venom is something to be feared, regardless of what god you profess to follow. I feel very sorry for you.

  226. NO you are the one that needs to get over it CAIR is a front group for the Muslim Brotherhood and needs to be banned and run out of the country along with the rest of you that want to take over OUR COUNTRY. SEE THOSE WORDS "OUR COUNTRY", our families fought and died to make it what it is and you want to come here and take over and change it into a Muslin country with Sharia law. Go to some Muslim country and put on your hajib and shut up.

  227. The title of this article is completely misleading. In the pledge they never said "One Nation Under Allah" they said "أمة واحدة تحت الله" which when translated to English is "One Nation Under God".
    English: God
    German: Gott
    Arabic: Allah
    Spanish: Dios
    Swahili: Mungu
    Why does it matter what language the pledge is said in? I swear its ridiculous how many people here are losing their shit over kids saying the pledge in a language other than English.

  228. No it is not don't start trying to tell us that, I was a teacher for many years from K-1 to Senior High and taught at University level for many years. We never taught children to pledge allegiance to the United States in any foreign language and certainly not in Arabic with the name of Allah.

  229. No what we are saying is this is the way the Muslims start working within the system to change it to where they start worming in their laws and way of living. The majority of us accept the idea of no religion in school but I and no one I know wants our children to be pledging allegiance saying under Allah. REally you want to live in a country run under Sharia Law. You need to go study before you call us ignorant. Most of the world does not hate us they envy us and if they do hate us so what.

  230. No what we are saying is this is the way the Muslims start working within the system to change it to where they start worming in their laws and way of living. The majority of us accept the idea of no religion in school but I and no one I know wants our children to be pledging allegiance saying under Allah. REally you want to live in a country run under Sharia Law. You need to go study before you call us ignorant. Most of the world does not hate us they envy us and if they do hate us so what.

  231. I find it extremely entertaining (me being an atheist) that, as soon as someone invokes a name of "god" that isn't the christian god, all of the sudden the "let's get god back in schools and leave GOD in the pledge" people suddenly back away. I guess they forgot to mention that it's ok so long as it THEIR god. Oops.

  232. I find it extremely entertaining (me being an atheist) that, as soon as someone invokes a name of "god" that isn't the christian god, all of the sudden the "let's get god back in schools and leave GOD in the pledge" people suddenly back away. I guess they forgot to mention that it's ok so long as it THEIR god. Oops.

  233. You need to realize this is the first steps to the Muslims worming their way into our country and taking over, this is what they have done in Europe and plan on doing here. It is not so much the use of the prayer but the idea of teaching children to pledge "Under allah" I can accept it if the take out the under God but not to use allah here in our country. Do you realize that you represent less than 5% of the people in this country but scream more about everything trying to force your atheist ideas on all of us. Why shouldn't we force our ideas on you LOL

  234. NO go read and study their god is based on a moon god worshiped in the middle east and incorporated into the Muslim religion. IT IS NOT THE GOD OF Christianitiy and the Jews. Get that through your head. Regardless of what the Muslims are trying to tell us they are not the same.

  235. History is history my man. All your good intentions does not erase the slavery, war on women, pedophilia. It hardly matters what your mosque teaches, your Quran teaches it. You act as if because you have not practiced such, no Muslim does. You are the exception.

  236. Poorly written my eye, you don't know what you are talking about, if you bothered to really read with an open mind you would be amazed at the continuity of the different books involved over a 3,000 year period. I just pray that someday before it is to late you will realize the error of what you have been taught and learned.

  237. You can't be tolerant of the Muslims, don't you understand that is how they have taken over a lot of Europe and intend to take over our country.

  238. I feel like people are missing the point here. Focusing on that one word in that one language misses the point entirely. I can tell you all that Rocky is a great school, it is a large school and it is very diverse. There are students there from all backgrounds and religions. There are students there who are from predominately Islamic countries, who's parents made great sacrifices for them to be here. Do you want these kids to be embraced by our country and culture? Or do you want to make them feel like outsiders and rejected? America IS a melting pot and has been from the start and they are part of it. Would you rather they pledge their allegiance to our country with words they don't even understand the meaning of or with words that mean something? And it isn't because they aren't learning English or trying, you can't just drop a kid in the US and snap your fingers and have them be perfectly fluent, it is a process. This is a school full of kids they are still impressionable, welcoming them and including them does a lot for all of us. Because we all know too well that there are people out there and nefarious forces that will embrace them and try everything to turn them against us. This isn't about one word in our Pledge of Allegiance, it's about all of the students actually pledging their allegiance and comprehending what they are saying. It is shocking to me how many of you are missing the point here!

  239. If they are Muslim yes, that would be ok but for the school to basically force it on them is wrong, I don't think anyone should be forced to pledge in any God's name. Not the Christian God or Muslim god or Hindu or Buddist. We are not all closed in our attitudes but we don't want our children to be taught about allah and the muslim religion but not the christian religion which seems to be the way the system is headed.

  240. I'm an atheist and yes, we've been fighting to keep religion and state separate. This is a great example of why. IF the government wishes to not keep "god" or religion separate, then either ALL religions are allowed or NO religions are allowed. Take your pick. Until this country becomes a theocracy like so many in the middle east are (and we all know how well that works out ) then that is the choice we make in this country.

  241. John Peters ok now yes there are some priests that have been bad people but the Muslims actually endorse it in their religion, go read their koran and see.

  242. NO, actually we don't want God in school, we wanted the moral values that the Christian religion taught to be kept more than actually God hisself. Yes, God was added to the pledge in response to the cold war and yes maybe it should be removed but to add a pledge under a god that teaches men to rape children, kill women and cut off peoples heads or hands where is the comparison to a God that says too love your neighbor, turn the other cheek and love your children, love your wife so she will respect you. Do you think Muslim women respect their husbands or do they just fear being killed or beaten? People like you need to read and study before you start talking about repercussions. You have no idea what is involved here.

  243. Prototype Atheist You are so wrong, you have read a couple of books and think you know so much. Go talk to a few Jewish people and try that idea on them. Abraham had nothing to do with Islam. Islam didn't even exist for almost a thousand years after the Christian religion started at the death of Yeshua. What you are saying is so offensive as to actually be rude to us.

  244. It doesn't matter how similar or dissimilar they are. When an Arabic-speaking person says "Allah" it translates to "God." Arabic Christians say, "Allah" instead of God. Mexicans say "uno" instead of "one."

    God of Islam may have started as a moon god. I don't care. That is irrelevant. There are undoubtedly differences between Christian God and Islamic God. Obviously.

    "Allah" is Arabic for "God." Plain and simple. YES, there are differences between the the two religions' view of what God is. I have acknowledged that. Obviously they have different conceptions of what God is, otherwise they wouldn't be two different religions. Obviously they are different, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER.

  245. Thing is it wasn't any more religious than using another word for god in a pledge that unfortunatly ha god added to it in the fifties. So by your account we should take god out of the pledge. I am all sorts of fine with that.

  246. Sean P. Pratt

    And as for the atheists, then they have despaired and lost hope. They believe in inanimate matter, atomes, stardust as the origin of the world and man and also that such and organism regulates the affairs of the world. Thus they made such into their gods.

    They made inanimate matter as equals with Creator, because if you argue with them and you pin them down, and you ask them: who created the world, who regluates the affairs of the universe you will hear them say: nature.

    And if you then ask them, what is nature, because usually when that word pops up, you think of the forests, the animal life, outside the urban citiies etc.

    And thus the Oxford english dictionary says:

    Nature:

    Pronunciation: /ˈneɪtʃə

    NOUN

    1 [MASS NOUN] The phenomena of the physical world collectively, including plants, animals, the landscape, and other features and products of the earth, as opposed to humans or human creations:

    Now, when they say natural selection. You have to understand, that what they are doing here is that they are attributing some sort of consciousness and will to nature, that it selects what it likes for survival.

    Thus they made these into the givers of life.

    Every kaafir (disbeleiver), is a mushrik (polytheists), and every mushrik is a kaafir.

    They ony differ in where they make the polytheism.

    For example, you will not hear most christians say that Jesus the son of Mary عليه السلام created the world or that he is the giver of life and death etc. Even when they argue with the atheists – you will hear them say: God created the world, thus distinguishing God from Jesus.

    It is only after, when they may have convinced the atheist, of the existence of God – that they then later on beautify the shirk (polytheism) for them. But in the debates with the atheists, they will never say "Jesus created such and such" only after the debates, will your hear them say, Jesus is God.

    So where is it that they differ in their polytheism?

    If you study Islamic Aqidah (Belief, Doctrine, Creed) which is the most important knowledge for the human to know, and which the right of the Creator upon the creation.

    Then you will learn Tawhid (Islamic Monotheism).

    And Tawhid, has three categories.

    1. Tawhid ar-Rububiyyah (Oneness of the Lordship of Allah)

    2. Tawhid al-Uluhiyyah (Oneness of the Worship of Allah)

    3. And Tawhid al-Asmaa' Wa Sifaat (Oneness of the Names and Attributes of Allah)

    Scholars like Ibn Taymiyyah رحمه الله and Ibn al-Qayyim رحمه الله divided the catergories of Tawhid, into two:

    Meaning, incorporating Ar-Rububiyyah and al-Asmaa.Wa Sifaat, into One.

    Now, if you ask the common idol-worshippers, who devout and is sacrificing to the idol. And you ask him: "O idol-worshipper, did this idol of yours created the universe?"

    The answer that he will most likely give you – is no!

    Similarly, the christians who invoke, Jesus عليه السلام or Mary عليها السلام, or those among them that have many saints etc. They will not tell you that they created the world.

    And all of the Prophets, from the time of Nuh (Noah) عليه السلام until the final Messenger of Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ, Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم. None of the people that those Messengers were sent to, told them, that their idols or the things that they invoke besides Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ created the world. But their arguments in most cases, where that they said: we found our fathers doing this and we guide ourselves by their way.

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    وَلَئِن سَأَلْتَهُم مَّنْ خَلَقَهُمْ لَيَقُولُنَّ اللَّهُ ۖ فَأَنَّىٰ يُؤْفَكُونَ
    And if you ask them who created them, they will surely say: "Allah." How then are they turned away (from the worship of Allah, Who created them)?

    Qur'aan Surah az-Zukhruf Ayah 87

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    وَاتْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ نَبَأَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ
    And recite to them the story of Ibraaheem (Abraham).

    إِذْ قَالَ لِأَبِيهِ وَقَوْمِهِ مَا تَعْبُدُونَ
    When he said to his father and his people: "What do you worship?"

    قَالُوا نَعْبُدُ أَصْنَامًا فَنَظَلُّ لَهَا عَاكِفِينَ
    They said: "We worship idols, and to them we are ever devoted."

    قَالَ هَلْ يَسْمَعُونَكُمْ إِذْ تَدْعُونَ
    He said: "Do they hear you, when you call on (them)?

    أَوْ يَنفَعُونَكُمْ أَوْ يَضُرُّونَ
    "Or do they benefit you or do they harm (you)?"

    قَالُوا بَلْ وَجَدْنَا آبَاءَنَا كَذَ‌ٰلِكَ يَفْعَلُونَ
    They said: "(Nay) but we found our fathers doing so."

    قَالَ أَفَرَأَيْتُم مَّا كُنتُمْ تَعْبُدُونَ
    He said: "Do you observe that which you have been worshipping,

    أَنتُمْ وَآبَاؤُكُمُ الْأَقْدَمُونَ
    "You and your ancient fathers?

    فَإِنَّهُمْ عَدُوٌّ لِّي إِلَّا رَبَّ الْعَالَمِينَ
    "Verily they are enemies to me, save the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinn and all that exists),

    الَّذِي خَلَقَنِي فَهُوَ يَهْدِينِ
    "Who has created me, and it is He Who guides me.

    Qur'aan Surah ash-Shuʿaraa' Ayat 69-78

    The point being here is that, many of the common polytheists acknowledge the existence of Allah (God), as the Creator, Lord of the universe, Originator, Sustainer, Maintainer and Regulator of all affairs of the heavens and earth. This is Tawhid ar-Rububiyyah (Oneness of the Lordship of Allah).

    But, where they are making the shirk (polytheism) is not in Rububiyyah. But in Tawhid al-Uluhiyah or 'Ibadah (Worship).

    Did you understand?

    The common polytheist affirms the existence of the Creator, but he worships and associates partners with Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ in worship. And this is the type of mushrik that most of the Messengers if not all, were went to.

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    وَمَا يُؤْمِنُ أَكْثَرُهُم بِاللَّهِ إِلَّا وَهُم مُّشْرِكُونَ
    And most of them believe not in Allah except that they attribute partners unto Him.

    Qur'aan Surah Yusuf (Joseph) Ayah 106

    Thus from the Islamic persepctive, the atheist, is worse than that of the
    idolater or christian. Because they removed God altogether and made the creation the very creator, regulator, maintainer and sustainer of the universe.

    Did you understand?

  247. Sean P. Pratt

    And thus we can also understand that, belief in the existence of God Alone, will not help anyone. All of the common polytheists believe in the existence of God, but they associate others in worship with their Creator.

    So the Prophets and Messengers were sent to tell the people, to worship Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ Alone without partners.

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ مِّثْلُكُمْ يُوحَىٰ إِلَيَّ أَنَّمَا إِلَـٰهُكُمْ إِلَـٰهٌ وَاحِدٌ ۖ فَمَن كَانَ يَرْجُو لِقَاءَ رَبِّهِ فَلْيَعْمَلْ عَمَلًا صَالِحًا وَلَا يُشْرِكْ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِ أَحَدًا
    Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): "I am only a man like you. It has been revealed to me that your Ilah (God) is One Ilah (God – i.e. Allah). So whoever hopes for the Meeting with his Lord, let him work righteousness and associate none as a partner in the worship of his Lord."

    Qur'aan Surah al-Kahf Ayah 110

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَغْفِرُ أَن يُشْرَكَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَ‌ٰلِكَ لِمَن يَشَاءُ ۚ وَمَن يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدِ افْتَرَىٰ إِثْمًا عَظِيمًا
    Verily, Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with Him (in worship), but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He wills; and whoever sets up partners with Allah in worship, he has indeed invented a tremendous sin.

    Qur'aan Surah an-Nisaa' Ayah 48

    So do not die in a state of shirk, because of you do, then you have ruined your entire existence. And know that the christian religion is a polytheism. You can see it for yourself in the comments, how they openly say that they worship humans who created nothing and cannot help them or help themselves.

  248. Wow, an open mind? Your mind would have to be so wide open that it could never be brought back together. There are no Gods, angels, spirits, ghost, and certainly no holy ghost.

  249. Stanley Holmes "Muslim stronghold of New Zealand', that along makes you someone not to take seriously. You're not winning a medal for mouthing off against a religion, though if it gives you a hard on to insult others then please be my guest. It seems like a chunk of people in the States seem to feed off of hatred and get their rocks off on a dick measuring competition on 'who can insult Islam more'. Pretty pathetic.

  250. Merrilee Slaton I have read and studied the bible very much as well as other religions. Your Jesus still upholds the mosaic laws which are just as horrible/silly as these. Both books are disgusting by "people like me" moral standards, thank you. I taught my children to be good for it's own sake, not to please a dictator in the sky.
    As for not wanting Under God in the pledge, I've never seen any Christians rallying in opposition for it…that was my point. Now, live with it. Congratulations.

  251. Michael . Just because you are a failure at being multi-lingual does not mean everyone has to speak the one language you understand.

  252. Shane Bryant Im a militant atheist and believe ALL religions are fundamentally evil so I guess your generalized theory is now bust. PRAISE THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!

  253. Al Letle We give a fuck. Your relationship with the muslim world affects everyone in the west. When you idiots get all christian and bible bashing you do a stand up job of fucking it up for hundreds of millions of people around the world. Unlike you we live next to major islamic nations and they blow shit up because they associate westerners with you lot. In 2002 and 2005 Jihadists killed westerners as retaliation for your war on terror (and you may actually want to read OsamaBin Laden's Fatwas so you understand how your attitudes and actions matter outside your own backyard). Your pledge is not to god. Originally it didn't even mention a god so that bit really wasn't important was it? They said the pledge in a different language but no one got pissy when it was said in French in a previous episode at this school.

  254. Al Letle We give a fuck. Your relationship with the muslim world affects everyone in the west. When you idiots get all christian and bible bashing you do a stand up job of fucking it up for hundreds of millions of people around the world. Unlike you we live next to major islamic nations and they blow shit up because they associate westerners with you lot. In 2002 and 2005 Jihadists killed westerners as retaliation for your war on terror (and you may actually want to read OsamaBin Laden's Fatwas so you understand how your attitudes and actions matter outside your own backyard). Your pledge is not to god. Originally it didn't even mention a god so that bit really wasn't important was it? They said the pledge in a different language but no one got pissy when it was said in French in a previous episode at this school.

  255. I have a solution. Lets restore the pledge in its original form, without the words under god, and no one should have an issue when the others myth is used.

  256. Stanley Holmes That's where you are wrong Stanley. I'm not sure where you get your views from but most Muslims do in fact look down upon and don't partake in what you mentioned. What do you know of what the Quran teaches? Have you actually studied it from non biased translations and the context of it's meanings? You say you're not a Christian either, so whether you follow a faith or don't, spreading poorly understood information is doing a disservice to not only yourself but others as well.

    Islam does not practice slavery, period. You are applying common day sensibilities to age old practices and I don't know anywhere where educated Muslims who don't look down on pedophilia. If it is being practiced then it being done so by corrupt men who are wrong in their faith. If Islam is waging such war on women, tell me why are statistically a large amount of Western women turning to accept this particular faith? Masochists? Glutton for punishment? It's because they have studied what Islam is and don't fall prey to misinformation or judge on the actions of the extremist few.

  257. Stanley Holmes I am happy to give criticism to islam when it is due. (New Zealand is a secular nation BTW). In this case it is christians being dicks so it is christians that I am "spouting off" at.

  258. Anthony Quatroni Whether you are or aren't a christian, it's still the stands as true. Christians are just as much savages as muslims.

    And Merille, your bible condones taking female children as sex slaves as spoils of conquest. And it's not just some priest, but a helluva lot of them. Though, they usually prefer little boys.

  259. Anthony Quatroni Whether you are or aren't a christian, it's still the stands as true. Christians are just as much savages as muslims.

    And Merille, your bible condones taking female children as sex slaves as spoils of conquest. And it's not just some priest, but a helluva lot of them. Though, they usually prefer little boys.

  260. ICAO (International Civil Aeronautics Organization) chose english as the language. Note the word INTERNATIONAL for flights.

  261. ICAO (International Civil Aeronautics Organization) chose english as the language. Note the word INTERNATIONAL for flights. This is so that if a pilot were landing in china and only spoke english and a pilot from france was landing at the same time, no confusion would arise so planes would not crash. English just so happening to be the standard language for international flights does not mean so for this country (or world for that matter).

  262. But Greg… it says in Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,
    Aren't the christians being deceitful as well since this is pretty much EXACTLY THE SAME THING!

  263. Lee Joseph Mitchell Now lee. You are not allowed to use the christian bible to quote the Obvious injustices hate crimes torture of woman and other atrocities because christians dont actually READ the bible… ever… so they just wouldn't understand.. LOL

  264. Lee Joseph Mitchell Now lee. You are not allowed to use the christian bible to quote the Obvious injustices hate crimes torture of woman and other atrocities because christians dont actually READ the bible… ever… so they just wouldn't understand.. LOL

  265. Lee Joseph Mitchell, what we have here is a LOT of people who are simply ignorant of some very basic facts. They don't understand the distinction between the word "Allah", the arabic spelling of the word for god, and the word "Allah" meaning the god revered by the Islamic faith. I even saw a comment from someone who said "If Arab Christians even really exist.." wow.. do people think that outside of America, Christians in other countries only use English when referring to god? It's sort of the same distinction between saying the word "god" a generic term for any mythical deity, and the word "God" meaning the god revered by those of the Judae-Christian faiths. I do wish people were a little more educated about such matters..

  266. Sean P. Pratt

    And, they do not believe in the Hereafter.

    And I've talked to many of them.

    To them utlimately there is no purpose in the existence of vast heavens, the earth, mankind and everything that we see. Because they believe that they will turn into dust and bones and disentegrate inside their graves. Meaning, after this life, they believe that they will vanish and cease to exist forever.

    They have lost all hope and despaired.

    And thus ultimately, there is no point in doing good deeds at all. Because if we are all going to vanish and cease to exist forever in the end, doesn't that then justify the evil-deeds?

    Doesn't that make the good-doer and the evil-doer equal once they all die?

    So the good-doer is only wasting his life, because, in accordance with their beliefs, he could just have followed his own whims and desires as they do today – and thus do whatever that is fair-seeming unto him, as long as the authorities doesn't get hold of him.

    But lets say, if such a one is the ruler of the land and the person of authority, who can stop him then?

    Thus, the disbelief in the Hereafter, is the root cause of corruption, injustice, oppression on earth.

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    وَإِن تَعْجَبْ فَعَجَبٌ قَوْلُهُمْ أَإِذَا كُنَّا تُرَابًا أَإِنَّا لَفِي خَلْقٍ جَدِيدٍ ۗ أُولَـٰئِكَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا بِرَبِّهِمْ ۖ وَأُولَـٰئِكَ الْأَغْلَالُ فِي أَعْنَاقِهِمْ ۖ وَأُولَـٰئِكَ أَصْحَابُ النَّارِ ۖ هُمْ فِيهَا خَالِدُونَ
    And if you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم) wonder, then wondrous is their saying: "When we are dust, shall we indeed then be (raised) in a new creation?" They are those who disbelieved in their Lord! They are those who will have iron chains tying their hands to their necks. They will be the dwellers of the Fire to abide therein forever.

    Qur'aan Surah ar-Ra'd Ayah 5

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    قَدْ عَلِمْنَا مَا تَنقُصُ الْأَرْضُ مِنْهُمْ ۖ وَعِندَنَا كِتَابٌ حَفِيظٌ
    We know that which the earth takes of them (their dead bodies), and with Us is a Book preserved (i.e. the Book of Decrees).

    Qur'aan Surah Qaf Ayah 4

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    أَيْنَ مَا تَكُونُوا يَأْتِ بِكُمُ اللَّهُ جَمِيعًا ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ
    Wheresoever you may be, Allah will bring you together (on the Day of Resurrection). Verily, Allah is Able to do all things.

    Qur'aan Surah al-Baqarah Ayah 148

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    بَدِيعُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ ۖ وَإِذَا قَضَىٰ أَمْرًا فَإِنَّمَا يَقُولُ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ
    The Originator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it: "Be!" – and it is.

    Qur'aan Surah al-Baqarah Ayah 117

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    ذَ‌ٰلِكَ بِأَنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْحَقُّ وَأَنَّهُ يُحْيِي الْمَوْتَىٰ وَأَنَّهُ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ
    That is because Allah: He is the Truth, and it is He Who gives life to the dead, and it is He Who is Able to do all things.

    وَأَنَّ السَّاعَةَ آتِيَةٌ لَّا رَيْبَ فِيهَا وَأَنَّ اللَّهَ يَبْعَثُ مَن فِي الْقُبُورِ
    And surely, the Hour is coming, there is no doubt about it; and verily, Allah will resurrect (raise up) those who are in the Graves.

    Qur'aan Surah al-Hajj Ayat 6-7

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمُ الَّذِي يَخْتَلِفُونَ فِيهِ وَلِيَعْلَمَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنَّهُمْ كَانُوا كَاذِبِينَ
    In order that He may make manifest to them the truth of that wherein they differ, and that those who disbelieved may know that they were liars.

    إِنَّمَا قَوْلُنَا لِشَيْءٍ إِذَا أَرَدْنَاهُ أَن نَّقُولَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ
    Verily! Our Word unto a thing when We intend it, is only that We say unto it: "Be!" – and it is.

    Qur'aan surah an-Nahl Ayat 39-40

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    إِنَّ السَّاعَةَ آتِيَةٌ أَكَادُ أُخْفِيهَا لِتُجْزَىٰ كُلُّ نَفْسٍ بِمَا تَسْعَىٰ
    "Verily, the Hour is coming – and I am almost hiding it – that every Nafs (self, person) may be rewarded for that which it strives.

    فَلَا يَصُدَّنَّكَ عَنْهَا مَن لَّا يُؤْمِنُ بِهَا وَاتَّبَعَ هَوَاهُ فَتَرْدَىٰ
    "Therefore, let not the one who believes not therein, but follows his own lusts, divert you therefrom, lest you perish.

    Qur'aan Surah Ta-Ha Ayat 15-16

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    وَقَالُوا مَا هِيَ إِلَّا حَيَاتُنَا الدُّنْيَا نَمُوتُ وَنَحْيَا وَمَا يُهْلِكُنَا إِلَّا الدَّهْرُ ۚ وَمَا لَهُم بِذَ‌ٰلِكَ مِنْ عِلْمٍ ۖ إِنْ هُمْ إِلَّا يَظُنُّونَ
    And they say: "There is nothing but our life of this world, we die and we live and nothing destroys us except Ad-Dahr (time). And they have no knowledge of it: they only conjecture.

    Qur'aan Surah al-Jaathiyaah Ayah 24

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    وَخَلَقَ اللَّهُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ بِالْحَقِّ وَلِتُجْزَىٰ كُلُّ نَفْسٍ بِمَا كَسَبَتْ وَهُمْ لَا يُظْلَمُونَ
    And Allah has created the heavens and the earth with truth, in order that each Nafs (self, person) may be recompensed for what it has earned, and they will not be wronged.

    Qur'aan Surah al-Jaathiyaay Ayah 22

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّ وَعْدَ اللَّهِ حَقٌّ ۖ فَلَا تَغُرَّنَّكُمُ الْحَيَاةُ الدُّنْيَا ۖ وَلَا يَغُرَّنَّكُم بِاللَّهِ الْغَرُورُ
    O mankind! Verily, the Promise of Allah is true. So let not this present life deceive you, and let not the chief deceiver (Shaitan) deceive you about Allah.

    Qur'aan Surah Faatir Ayah 5

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    وَلَن يُؤَخِّرَ اللَّهُ نَفْسًا إِذَا جَاءَ أَجَلُهَا ۚ وَاللَّهُ خَبِيرٌ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ
    And Allah grants respite to none when his appointed time (death) comes. And Allah is All-Aware of what you do.

    Qur'aan Surah al-Munafiqun Ayah 11

  267. I believe that adhering to the constitution would proclude you mentioning god at all.

    And to be fair naming your sky daddy is offensive enough in and of itself.

    Guess what, I hope that you enjoy all spoils of the seeds of hate you sow.

  268. Sean P. Pratt

    And thus we can also understand that, belief in the existence of God Alone, will not help anyone. All of the common polytheists believe in the existence of God, but they associate others in worship with their Creator.

    So the Prophets and Messengers were sent to tell the people worship Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ Alone without partners.

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ مِّثْلُكُمْ يُوحَىٰ إِلَيَّ أَنَّمَا إِلَـٰهُكُمْ إِلَـٰهٌ وَاحِدٌ ۖ فَمَن كَانَ يَرْجُو لِقَاءَ رَبِّهِ فَلْيَعْمَلْ عَمَلًا صَالِحًا وَلَا يُشْرِكْ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِ أَحَدًا
    Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): "I am only a man like you. It has been revealed to me that your Ilah (God) is One Ilah (God – i.e. Allah). So whoever hopes for the Meeting with his Lord, let him work righteousness and associate none as a partner in the worship of his Lord."

    Qur'aan Surah al-Kahf Ayah 110

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَغْفِرُ أَن يُشْرَكَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَ‌ٰلِكَ لِمَن يَشَاءُ ۚ وَمَن يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدِ افْتَرَىٰ إِثْمًا عَظِيمًا
    Verily, Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with Him (in worship), but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He wills; and whoever sets up partners with Allah in worship, he has indeed invented a tremendous sin.

    Qur'aan Surah an-Nisaa' Ayah 48

    So do not die in a state of shirk, because of you do, then you have ruined your entire existence. And know that the christian religion is a polytheism. You can see it for yourself in the comments, how they openly say that they worship humans who created nothing and cannot help them or help themselves.

  269. WHERES Lee Joseph Mitchell, Bobby G. Hunsaker, Umair Shafiq AND LETS NOT FORGET THE DISGRACE TO THE UNITED STATES MILITARY MAN Joshua A Palyo. WHAT HAVE ALL YOU KNOW IT ALLS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT MUSLIMS POST.
    Like this part
    Lee Joseph Mitchell. There are times when you have patience and you are softhearted and there are times when you do not tolerate evil people. Because they won't understand. These are enemies and you should show them harshness and severity. See how they insult and ridicule you?

    Know that they are worthless mushrikeen (polytheists), they are najasun (impure) and they are the dewllers of the Fire to abide therien forever. If you find anyone insulting Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ and His Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم., then know brother that there no good in them.

    These are the ones that one should kill, wherever they are found.

    peaseful huh… now fuck off assholes

  270. I have a better idea.. How about we actually follow Separation of Church and State and remove the words "under God" from it entirely? Especially since they weren't there in the first place?

  271. Grant Collinsworth YHWH is a god associated with Edom, Moab and Midian in the south of the canaanite regions. The "kenite hypothesis" is pretty well accepted amongst biblical scholars. I suggest reading something like "Yahweh and the Gods and Goddesses of Canaan” by John Day or Yahweh, the Canaanite God of Metallurgy? Nissim Amzallag to get an up to date look at the YHWH-El discussions.

  272. Yavuz Oksar you spelled so many things wrong like theres is there's gess is guess and chines is Chinese and leav is leave lenguegis is langue's dosnt Is doesn't cuz is cause and ware Is were and sertin is certain and again lengueg is langue. there I found so many miss spelled words and you grammar is way off you are missing a lot of words to in the sentences I don't want you to feel bad but I know how to spell in English and in some other langue to I've also taken Chinese for 2 years and I know a little and I also know a little German and sign langue and the next langue's I want to learn is Spanish and French thank you and have a nice day

  273. Lee Joseph Mitchell actually there is a national language, it is English. To become a citizen of the United states you must learn English.. Its not racist, its a fact. Look it up

  274. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all based on the teachings of Abraham and his descendents. Mohamad is supposed to be the latest messiah.
    I"ll make it simple.
    Judaism=Middle east religion version 4
    Christianity=Middle east religion version 4.1
    Islam=Middle east religion version 4.2
    Would you feel better if the kids did it in Hebrew and said "Jahweh?"Old Testament, ya know.

  275. TheHoney Badger How about we don't have a bunch of bigots in Congress in the first place? By the way, don't go off on the tangent that I'm some "dumb liberal retard" because I'm not a liberal, and I'm sure as fuck not a conservative, because they're one in the same. Now to my point. Why should we have an established language? So you can alienate foreigners even more? The only thing I see that doing is forcing your own agenda down someone elses neck. I'm so tired of hearing all this Christian this, Christian that bullshit. The world would be better off without any religion because you know what? It turns people into hateful fucks. And that's ALL of the religions, not just Christianity and Islam.

  276. Lee Joseph Mitchell First Sir, You may want to note. Muslims pray " There is no god but allah and mohammed is his messenger".. So you mean to tell me they are simply saying " There is not god but god and mohammed is his messenger" seems rather redundant don't you think. Secondly Christians and Jews worship YHWH. The name of our God in the Bible is YHWH. his characteristics are completely different than allah of the quran. What you are saying is that if we get two people together named "Bob" since they are both named "bob" they are the exact same person with the exact same characteristics, personality and abilities. That would be a completely wrong assumption. Just as saying allah and YHWH are the same. They are not. in fact they are polar opposites.

  277. First Sir, You may want to note. Muslims pray " There is no god but allah and mohammed is his messenger".. So you mean to tell me they are simply saying " There is not god but god and mohammed is his messenger" seems rather redundant don't you think. Secondly Christians and Jews worship YHWH. The name of our God in the Bible is YHWH. his characteristics are completely different than allah of the quran. What you are saying is that if we get two people together named "Bob" since they are both named "bob" they are the exact same person with the exact same characteristics, personality and abilities. That would be a completely wrong assumption. Just as saying allah and YHWH are the same. They are not. in fact they are polar opposites

  278. Merrilee Slaton – indoctrinating them in Islam is bad, but indoctrinating them in Christianity is ok?

    You don't seem to understand the ideas of freedom of religion, and separation of church and state – two principles upon which this country was founded. You're the one who's destroying this country's foundation. You're the one who should get out.

  279. Lee Joseph Mitchell First Sir, You may want to note. Muslims pray " There is no god but allah and mohammed is his messenger".. So you mean to tell me they are simply saying " There is not god but god and mohammed is his messenger" seems rather redundant don't you think. Secondly Christians and Jews worship YHWH. The name of our God in the Bible is YHWH. his characteristics are completely different than allah of the quran. What you are saying is that if we get two people together named "Bob" since they are both named "bob" they are the exact same person with the exact same characteristics, personality and abilities. That would be a completely wrong assumption. Just as saying allah and YHWH are the same. They are not. in fact they are polar opposites

  280. Garrett Fitzpatrick We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are the result of billions and billions of years of cellular lotteries, all ending with winners and resulting in the mess we have today.

  281. Richard Money IF thats the case, you've been wrong the whole time. Your saying god is " Lamed-Yodh-Aleph 'lia , the original aramaic language jesus spoke. .. and now you have to go to hell. Praying to the wrong god in the wrong language. Sigh.

  282. Lloyd Hargett "Speak English or Leave". How about you change the law or pass an amendment nationalizing English? Otherwise, there is nothing compelling an American citizen to speak anything other than what they damn well please. Of course, there may be consequences when they can't get a job, but that's the free market working, not your ignorant excuse for xenophobia.

  283. Lloyd Hargett "Speak English or Leave". How about you change the law or pass an amendment nationalizing English? Otherwise, there is nothing compelling an American citizen to speak anything other than what they damn well please. Of course, there may be consequences when they can't get a job, but that's the free market working, not your ignorant excuse for xenophobia.

  284. Mike Bethune

    All Muslims should be harsh and severe against your kind. It is just unfortunate that some of them are patient or naive.

    Because I remember when these crossworshippers went to some Muslims hurling evil words against them. While many of the Muslims of you go to Egypt and I remember when I was there, their kind – meaning these crossworshpping americans – when they come to our lands, they are treated with respect. And some of them are treated with more respect than the Muslims that come from other parts of the Muslims world.

    See it here:

    That is because you Muslims in america have become weakened. These are our enemies, and they want to destroy Al-Masjid Al-Aqsa and Qubbat as-Sakhrah (the Dome of the Rock), in order to build a temple for the Dajjaal. And I've seen it – how they film our Masaajids, they and the ignoble jews, and how they then wish destruction upon it.

    See here:

    These crossworshipping hillibillies are very annoying polytheists creatures. And it is them, that you should never befriend or be nice to, ever!

    But be harsh and severe against them, until we meet them in Damiq or al-A'maq (In Syria) for the al-Malhamah al-Kubra (the Great Battle), that will take place between us, and the crossworshippers. And we will defeat them, and eliminate them. And it is the absolute truth with certainty.

    And if you do not meet before that, then know that either way – when we both die. You polytheists, human-worshippers will abide in the Fire forever.

    So dear Muslim reader of my comments. Know that my gheera (jealousy) for Islam is very High and cannot tolerate these people, even for a second.

  285. Go to Lee Joseph Mitchells Facebook Page…… He is a MUSLIM and his page is full of ANTI-AMERICAN posts… Islam is what he promotes not America

  286. Lukas Lex Go to Lee Josephs Facebook page.. He is an ANTI-AMERICAN MUSLIM. just look at all the posts on his wall !!

  287. Dennis Scarberry "Holy Phantom" Is the transliteration of ar-Ruh al-Qudus. Spirit, ghost, "Fantasma" if you will. Hey, but what do I know, I only have a degree in linguistics with an emphasis on anthropology AND a preaching credential with a specialization in Biblical Greek. So yeah, what do I know…

  288. Prototype Atheist
    Yeah, and it's not like, the Roman Church speaks (or ever spoke) for all of Christianity. But, just to play devil's advocate for a moment, The long persistence of the Latin mass was not a barrier to preaching in the vernacular. And, of course, even the RC gave up on the Latin mass in recent times, yet, even when the Latin mass was the norm, the Maronites said the mass kn Arabic. The more apt comparison, to my mind, would be to compare Islam's insistence on Arabic with the miracle of Pentecost. Or, if you prefer to deal with history rather than scripture, consider that Missionaries, largely Protestant, went to the ends of the earth to learn obsure languages and translate the Christian scriptures; often they had to construct the first written form and lexicon for such languages to pursue the Great Commission.

  289. Barbara Roth Until you speak Cherokee and live in a tee-pee made of buffalo hide, I think it may be YOU who is unfamiliar with our 'culture'. I was raised on the west coast, grew up surfing, eating california burritos and listening to Kenneth Copeland on Sundays, so why don't YOU shut the FUCK up. See, I'm so American, I even know what STFU meant.

  290. Acceptance will win out, and the White Wingers will continue to occupy the unpopular, far-right position.

  291. Gary Bangs So.. if I am deaf.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anJjyWm1GKQ I'm unpatriotic.. or if I'm reciting it in a different language? What if I'm deaf AND reciting it in sign language in a different language. What if I have a speech impediment and cannot say some of the words? WHAT IF I'M DEAF WITH A SPEECH IMPEDIMENT SIGNING THE WORDS WITHOUT THE USE OF ONE OF MY FINGERS TO SIGN CORRECTLY! ahhh!!!

  292. Muslim . Just because I'm curious…if your allah is the GOD and has all this power. and he is a loving forgiving god, why does he need your people to be the judge and executioner of other people? While our god teaches to not judge others and doesn't want us to kill other people but to love them….which is better

  293. kd7gmk I'm sure my preaching credential (I was a Church of Christ Pulpit Preacher for several years before I converted to Islam) and my BA in Linguistics with an emphasis on etymologies and anthropology preclude me from speaking on the topic, but Arabic is not a religion, it is a language. It is my first language as my Grandparents — my LEBANESE CHRISTIAN ORTHODOX grandparents required us to speak it at home with them. Arabic as a language that predates Islam by just shy of 1200 years (I'm not sure you can count that high, but I hope you can still follow along). So around 740 BCE (that's 740 years before the birth of Christ) the first form of Arabic appeared. Next came Christianity around 35 CE (2 years after the death of Christ). Now, I'm going to take a chance here and assume you have a remedial understanding of math, but what do you think Arabic Christians spoke when they converted to Christianity? If you guess English, you're wrong. They spoke *ding ding ding* Arabic!!! And might you want to gander the Arabic word for God? It's not 'God', FYI, it's ALLAH. So either 2000 years of Arabic Christians are all going to hell for calling upon the wrong God, or you're so stupid it's actually giving me a brain-freeze.

  294. Hau Tim I love how accepting and Christlike you are. You must have really worked hard at that.

  295. Merrilee Slaton i take it then that you support the removal of the words "under god" from the pledge? you know because religion isn't supposed to be sanctioned by government as you yourself admitted?

  296. Merrilee Slaton i take it then that you support the removal of the words "under god" from the pledge? you know because religion isn't supposed to be sanctioned by government as you yourself admitted?

  297. Grady Roy Um, if by pseudo-intellectual you mean a graduate with a degree in linguistics with an emphasis on etymologies and anthropology and a preaching credential, then I guess you're right.

  298. Matthew Mello yeah i think it was 23% that identify as non religious ( that means people who have no denomination agnostics and atheists combined) and 5% that self identify as atheist. btw we aren't forcing it on you. we just want you to listen to reason and understand why you are wrong and why religion is harmful to society. thats all, just listen don't blow it off don't make excuses don't deny facts just because they contradict your beliefs use logic and reason and actually learn. you christians on the other hand keep trying to force your antiquated morality on everybody else.

  299. Matthew McFarland Well, under Biblical law, a rapist is commanded to pay the father of his victim 50 shekels and marry her, never divorcing her as long as he lives (Deut 22:28-29. Oh, And then there's the commandment to parents that they must stone their disobedient children (Deut 21:18-21). And before you get all butt-hurt over the Old Testament, I have some gems from the New Testament for you. Like 1 Tim 2:18, in which the apostle Paul commands slaves to honor even the mean masters. Notice, he didn't tell Christians that OWNING ANOTHER FUCKING PERSON IS IMMORAL, he told slaves to shut up and take it. And then He writes to his young, impressionable pupil, Timothy, that women are not equal to men, and that a woman speaking or holding authority over a man is A DISGRACE (1 Tim 2:11-14). So tell me again how peaceful and ecumenical the bible is, and how misogynist the Quran is. They sound pretty freaking similar to me. Oh, that's right, because they were both written in the bronze age.

  300. Allah = God = Dios = Dieu = Elohim = Kamisama = Gott = Bog = Mungu

    They are all words in various languages that translate as God, as in the God, singular. Different folks may say the word to mean different things, just like each sect of Christianity will say God, but each has a slightly different take on what that means.

    Many of you seem to be equating Islam with Arabic. They are not the same thing. One is a religion and the other is a language. An Arab, Christian or otherwise, will when speaking English will often say God, speaking Arabic they will say Allah. Much the same way a Spaniard, regardless of religious choice will say God in English and will say Dios in Spanish.

    You are making mountains out of symantec mole hills and it makes you seem silly.

  301. God can be mentioned in public schools. BUT any administrator or teacher can not lead prayer, or endorse any particular religion. Children are free to pray as much as they want.

  302. Merrilee Slaton always with the conspiracies and slippery slopes with you isn't it.
    btw just so you know of the top 30 1st world countries we are number 27th in terms of the standard of living. if i remember correctly america tops the charts in 3 area's most people in prison, most teen pregnancies, and most high school dropouts. why exactly would other countries envy us?

  303. Merrilee Slaton you are correct. we do talk more loudly than most. because we see a threat and want to change it as well as the fact that atheists do not believe in bombing abortion clinics, oppressing the freedom of others, indoctrination ect ect. reason and logic and evidence are our weapons of choice.

  304. Merrilee Slaton most atheists are brought up in a religious family and genuinely tried to believe in god as i was and as i did. the difference is we have the ability to reason and comprehend complex thoughts.

  305. Merrilee Slaton the bible says we should stone a woman who has been raped if the man who raped her does not want to marry her because she didn't scream loud enough. the bible gives specific instructions on how to own slaves. the bible says we should stone disobedient children to death. the bible says that if a woman is not a virgin on her wedding night we should stone her to death. the difference is christians ignore those bits. im an atheist but i will say this about the muslims at least they are consistant and actually adhere to the tenets laid out in their holy book. at least in that regard they are honest unlike christians who constantly make shit up ignore other shit, make excuses and misinform people purposely. hell i can show you a single passage in which moses condoned rape kidnapping murder slavery pedophilla and in some sense racism and god didn't do a damned thing about it.

  306. Unfortunately, the part left out of this and all the other articles pertaining to this is "The school recites the Pledge of Allegiance weekly, on Mondays." in a different language each week.. I am not defending Islam here, but this is a non-story and fear mongering. Please learn to write all the facts instead of errors of omission to suit your agenda. this is what liberals tend to do.

  307. Anthony Quatroni Maybe because we are wiser than you? After all, you are the one bitching about what people are learning and getting your panties in a twist.

  308. Shane Bryant: WOW! Dang, I was using Webster (really, a real 'book' copy from 1957. LOL!!! Does it really matter? Are you here to express an opinion, to debate, or to grovel over semantics? Feeling singled out?

  309. Just to clear something up, it was changed to "Under Allah" simply because the Arabic translation of the English word for God, is Allah. This is why most of the world thinks that Americans are absolute idiots, because most of us can't even have the logic to discern something so obvious. The student wasn't trying to push an "Islamic agenda", he/she was trying to expand the already absent knowledge of the students' cultural boundaries.

  310. Erick Johnson hey so um freedom of religion is in the constitution. the seperation of chuch and state comes from the part that says " no religious test shall ever be given to hold a public office nor shall congress make any law regarding religion or the free practice thereof" <–(might be slightly paraphrased it was off the top of my head) in the treaty of tripoli it is expressly stated that american is in no way founded on the christian faith. and these are just a few examples from the founding documents. there are many others if you actually read them.

  311. Topher Mehlhoff: There is everything to it. Were one is forbidden, another can be explored? To what two-faced doctrine do you subscribe? You can't have it both ways.You will have to learn that not everybody gets a trophy just for showing up. Tell me; how does the liberal mind embrace that which abhors him?

  312. Lee Joseph Mitchell i'd say the quran is objectively worse… diarrhea is worse than crap, but i wouldn't want to smell either one.

  313. Erick JohnsonErick Johnson since christians are constantly lying and spreading misinformation and hate and you claim that satan is the father of lies does that mean christians are the sons of satan? muslims are at least honest about what their book says.

  314. Teresa Geib Bacon oh i see just like god you want humans to never question never reason never learn. makes me think if the fruit we were not supposed to eat in the garden of eden was the fruit of knowledge does that not mean that satan was encouraging us to learn and that god wanted us to be blithering idiots? for that matter if satan punishes the evil doer's doesn't that kinda make him the good guy? god just takes in those who willingly submit to ignorance (faith) and stroke his ego. not that either of them exist anyways but hypotheticals are fun for me because i like to think (which apparently god doesn't like)

  315. "From an American point of view, it is, whether he is technically correct or not, to Americans, in America, it’s a specific Muslim and Islamic reference." Lol WOW. So you recognize that he is right, but in America he is wrong, because you claim to speak for all Americans? If something is "technically right" then it is right everywhereand to eveveryone, including Americans. The only people it's wrong to is Islamaphobes like you! You're on the wrong side of history Rick Wells, idiots like you are fighting a losing battle, and you'll be remembered as the bigots you are. You claim that Americans are sick of the Islam agenda being pushed on them? Please, tell me how many laws are constructed around the beliefs of Islam? Now tell me, how many laws are constructed around Christianity? The only religious agenda us Americans are sick of is thr Christian zealots trying to make this country a damn theocracy! If you want to complain about anything they did in this pledge, it should be the reciting of "under gawd" in any language b/c THAT is deceitful to America.

  316. Mark, this is sad when people immigrate into OUR country and try to change US so that we can be more like them. Matthew 7:6 comes to mind and it's a waste of time to try to explain anything to people whose eyes and hearts are closed. Remember that God's in control.

  317. Are you all that scared ****less over some high schoolers? HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS for ONE SINGLE TIME being high schoolers.. and you all think Muhammad is breaking down the door to every school… wow! Lets see if you can remember 99.5% of what you did in High School….yeah..thats right..and Im sure all the stupid things just made you into some monster of an adult huh? Re-read the article you paranoid loons… A MEMBER. Read it again.. A MEMBER… that is a STUDENT.. A SINGLE STUDENT. Ya know, even as a real conservative, thank God I have a brain in my head that works compared to all of you RINOs going into full psycho flip out mode over this incident which was done by 10 million students nationwide… OH WAIT A SECOND.. it was just ONE STUDENT.

  318. Nah, they just go into Crusade mode and Manifest Destiny mode…but it was all in the name of Jesus!

  319. SO!! this is why I FEAR moving east of the Rocky Mountains.

    Short letter to mid-west and southern citizens who shit a brick at this:

    To whom ever had a cow at the use of the word "Allah":

    Your inability to intake new information astounds me. Wasn't it G.I. Joe, the most American Cartoon, that said "knowing is half the battle"? In this case the battle is being waged in your own fear. Fear of knowledge and tolerance. Fear of evolution and education. America is supposed to be the greatest country on planet earth. With that title is supposed to come with it a greater intelligence and I am ASHAMED to be an American when I see people defecate a brick because things like this. You know how the rest of the world views us? Guns, Bullets, and fake tits… that's what the rest of the world thinks of us. Not because of our awesome patriotism and not because we are even the bravest people… we are, on average as a country, collectively COWARDS!! That's right I said it… COWARDS!! Cowards be cause as a country we continue to breed close-mindedness, hatred, and intolerance. And as far as those who stand behind the men and women who died for this country fighting for it's freedom… it's FREEDOM you F*#()ing moron… freedom is freewill to make a choice, to explore the unknown, to understand our differences. That's what I want freedom to mean. That's what I would fight and die for. Not your damn fears about how "the Islamic agenda is being pushed and we are all being taken for fools," because the kids used the word Allah. I am SURE that some 15-18 year old high school-er is now sitting at home wringing his/her hands radioing "the crimson Jihad" back home "everything is going according to plan my leader. I can't wait for my 70 virgins."
    Allow me to exercise on more freedom by saying I pray to god, Vishnu, Allah, Krishna-na, Buddha, Yahweh… etc that this is a special place in Hell, tartarus, Sheol, jahannam, Mictlan, for ANYONE who has EVER said "if you don't speak English get the F(*^ out of my country." awwww did da witte baby woose a bwain ceww because he/she didn't undawstand sounds?

    -Gavin

    P.S. Anne Coulter is a Bitch.

  320. Mike Bethune

    Look at the video that I posted of those christians in america – how welcoming and nice and loving and not a judging people they are. Never seen a Muslim treat americans like that in the Muslim world. And then you have these extremist from the bible belt who come to Jerusalem and want to destroy our Mosques. Those, meaning those among them who wish that – they should be eliminated wherever they are found. No mercy whatsoever.

    I don't live in the united snakes of america, and nor have I ever set my foot therein – nor do I want to visit it.

    I think all Muslims in that country should make Hijrah to a Muslim land, because they are enemies to Islam. And I think the jews and idolaters in charge of their affairs will make another 9/11, but this time, using nukes and then blame it on the Muslims. So beware for yourself if you are Muslim living among these evil people. Then move away from that country. Go to one of the Gulf nations or Egypt or Malaysia or Indonesia – learn Arabic, the language of the Qur'aan and Sunnah. Save some money and make Hijrah if you can. That is my advise to my Muslm brothers and sisters.

    Can't you see how hateful these crossworshippers are. They want to harm you severely, hatred has already appeared from their mouths – but what they breasts conceal is far worse. They are slaves for the jews and if you look at most of those who fight against the Believers in the Muslim lands – then you will see that it is these kinds of people. Because ultimately, we will will clash with the christians and we will defeat them.

    There is no compulsion in religion and we cannot force you to believe in Islam, and even if such were to have happened – then it would not be accepted of you. Because the deeds need to be sincere in order for them to be accepted on the Day of Judgement. Any deed that is done for other than Allah is void, useless and those who show off their deeds to humans – seeking their fame, praise, attention etc will be scattered away like dust. They will be told to go and see if they can find reward them. Meaning, those whom they used to show off their deeds to.

    Pure Monotheism, inwardly and outwardly, free from polytheism in the heart not showing off – having light and not caring about the blame of the blamers. Only bowing ,prostraiting to none but Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ – having power, wisdom, sound understanding and knowledge of all affairs inside the heart with help of the Book of Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ. That is the Grace that Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ Bestows upon whom He will of His servants.

    But if you are proud and arrogant, thinking too highly of yourself – and you followed in the footsteps and ways of your ignorant fore-fathers who did not understand anything. And you just took upon their misguidance and never asked yourself whether it befits the Creator to beget children or whether it befits His Majesty, High Above, Exalted is He from becoming a man. Similarly, you will follow them into the Fire. And you will not be treated with injustice in the least. All of the people who will enter the Fire, will have no excuses. All of them had someone who came and warned them. And Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ never punishes anyone, without sending a warner.

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    وَقَدِمْنَا إِلَىٰ مَا عَمِلُوا مِنْ عَمَلٍ فَجَعَلْنَاهُ هَبَاءً مَّنثُورًا
    And We shall turn to whatever deeds they (disbelievers, polytheists) did, and We shall make such deeds as scattered floating particles of dust.

    Qur'aan Surah al-Furqaan Ayah 23

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    قَالُوا بَلَىٰ قَدْ جَاءَنَا نَذِيرٌ فَكَذَّبْنَا وَقُلْنَا مَا نَزَّلَ اللَّهُ مِن شَيْءٍ إِنْ أَنتُمْ إِلَّا فِي ضَلَالٍ كَبِيرٍ
    They will say: "Yes, indeed a warner did come to us, but we belied him and said: 'Allah never sent down anything (of revelation); you are only in great error.'"

    Qur'aan Surah al-Mulk Ayah 9

    Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ said,

    مَّنِ اهْتَدَىٰ فَإِنَّمَا يَهْتَدِي لِنَفْسِهِ ۖ وَمَن ضَلَّ فَإِنَّمَا يَضِلُّ عَلَيْهَا ۚ وَلَا تَزِرُ وَازِرَةٌ وِزْرَ أُخْرَىٰ ۗ وَمَا كُنَّا مُعَذِّبِينَ حَتَّىٰ نَبْعَثَ رَسُولًا
    Whoever goes right, then he goes right only for the benefit of his ownself. And whoever goes astray, then he goes astray to his own loss. No one laden with burdens can bear another's burden. And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning).

    Qur'aan Surah al-Israa' Ayah 15

    Know that Paradise have been forbidden for the polytheists. And if you die with christians beliefs, it is finished for you. The Fire will not take ayaw the shirk and so they will abide therein forever. And that is why the mushrik is spiritually impure (najasun).

  321. I read it. And that's how my mind was made up. Now why don't you do something? Pray and ask God to show you the Truth. Or Ask God why would a Muslim risk his whole world, family, security and even his life to turn to Jesus? It's easier in life to turn away from Christianity to Islam. It's not punishable in a Christian's law to kill a convert.

  322. Lee Joseph Mitchell, to the Muslims, we are "shirk" because Christians believe God to be Triune. To them, this is a polytheist belief and must be punished under one of the five pillars of Islamic faith (jihad). They believe Allah to be a single entity, and their view of him is so very different from the Judeo-Christian view of God. We believe Him to be a single deity with three different manifestations, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They think we worship three different gods. Technically, the words mean the same, as far as meaning "god", but you try explaining the Christian view of God to a Muslim and see where that gets you.

  323. Oh no! Don't push your religion in our schools you damn terrible people trying to force others under your agenda! Unless of course its Christianity, then it's OK :)… Is that hypocrisy I smell? #OneNationUnderOdin

  324. One nation under Allah
    One nation under Yahweh
    One nation under Buddah
    One nation under Zeus
    One nation under Odin
    One nation under (insert one of 1000's of gods here)

    Anyone offended by that? Good. If you would stop pushing the Christian agenda on everyone then I gaurentee there would be no pushing of an Islamic agenda. This would not have ever happened had our pledge stayed what it was before 1954.

  325. Excellent news story. Instead of murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims, Americans are beginning to recognize the Arabic language.

    By the way, the name “God” is an English word. In Arabic, it translates into “Allah”. Only an ignorant jackass would refuse this fact. Unfortunately, America is full of jackasses.

  326. So many ignorant comments!

    First of all, English is NOT the national language of the U.S. our country has no official language. Statements to the contrary do not make it so, no matter how much you post it here. Just get over it!

    Next, while the pledge was translated into another language, it is still the pledge to our country — not to Islam or Allah or anything else. If this still offends you, ask yourself if your faith in this country is so weak that it can be shattered by a translation of our pledge to another language.

    Put another way, if a translation into another language is so bad, why are many of you reading the Holy Bible in ENGLISH?

  327. Man you be crazy, trying to show people the errors in their logic and such. It is funny how people don't see the entire picture. Getting people all offended by saying the pledge this way would show them the flaw in their logic you would think, but don't get your hopes up.

  328. Here is the problem with most of the arguments posted here; the Bible, and all of the dogma derived from it, was written by men, edited by men, misused by men, and (as we have seen here) misquoted and misunderstood by men. It's not the word of God. It's not fact based. Your arguments are baseless.

  329. Mohammad is the Profit who speaks for the Goddess of Islam, because the Goddess must not be spoken to directly. There is only one god and she is everyone's. What makes you think Allah is a guy, Gregory? Look it up. Is there no room for tolerance in your religion? What, no brotherly love? Which religion is that?

  330. Who would want to embrace a culture that's been killing each other for centuries all in the name of Allah? It's all biblical! Once they get their way, they will behead everyone that goes against it!

  331. What if the US government recognizes no religion? Just keep religion and government seperate?

    Then no one would be 'played for fools,' Gregory.

  332. Uhhh… allah means god. Not knowing that makes you stupid, not them wrong for translating the pledge.

  333. That's because most Americans, unlike in other countries, are too dumb to learn another language, and the fascists might throw us in prison if we do. If pilots from other countries must learn a second language, why shouldn't we?

  334. Dave Schau – Islam is a religion of love and peace. It's the world's largest religion. You are referring to small groups of people who pretend to be of that religion, but are actually violent fascist, much like the Ku Klux Klan, who have nothing in common with Islam, just use it for a cover the same as Christian extremists do. Christianity is supposed to be of peace and love, too, but there are hate mongers who use it for a disguise. People aren't that different anywhere you go. If English is such a sacrament, why didn't the red blooded go live in England if they prefer that language? Were they lost?

  335. John Kinonakoa Pacheco Soooo, you think there is a pantheon of Gods that people can choose from? Or are you one of those sadly misguided adults who believe in demons, angels, and deities and believe that Allah is Satan?

    Seriously, it is called faith because it is not fact.